Celeste gets deep into the effects of special education with poet Matthew Griffin

There discussion includes:

- The interesting story of how Matthew and Celeste were introduced to each other,

- Matthew reveals his domestic background and how a visit to a psychology office changed his life.

- The difference of treatment for mental care between young white boys and young black boys

- How black boys are funneled into special education and put on medication to kill their spirit at a young age.