Heidi and Ellen talk to Grace and Jill.  Grace is a college sophomore with a passion for environmental science.  Her family is pressuring her to be pre-med and she feels stuck between what she wants to do and what she thinks she should do.  Jill has spent the past 30-years working in hospice and bereavement.  She sold her assisted living businesses a few years ago and is at a loss as to her next steps.  Ellen and Heidi also talk about the movies ‘Cruella”, ‘In the Heights’, the documentary ‘Aggie’, and the books “Paradigm Found’ by Anne Firth and ‘The Truth Will Set You Free But First It Will Piss You Off’ by Gloria Steinem.