Rob Baedeker is the co-author of What to Talk About: On a Plane, at a Cocktail Party, in a Tiny Elevator with Your Boss's Boss. In this episode, he shares how to break free of the sleep-inducing conversation templates we’ve all had on repeat, deal with awkward political discussions & keep the conversational spark alive with our friends & family by converting small talk into real talk.

This episode originally aired June 27, 2022.

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