"We have no idea what we're doing, ever." This week, we finally get a REALTOR to admit that out loud! Ignacio Anzaldo, a REALTOR from LIV Sotheby's International Realty in Ventura CA joins Reed for a super fun and (sometimes off the rails) chat about the current state of the overall real estate market (will any of us ever work again????) Ignacio tells us not to fret, that all the smartest REALTORS will be doubling down on their marketing during lean times. With beers flowing, HOt tAEkS abound in the second half of the show when Reed asks Ignacio questions crowdsourced from the private REP Facebook groups. They cover a lot of ground and make some BOLD STATEMENTS. This unfiltered episode finally ends with a couple of earnest Action Items from the guys.

Follow Ignacio on IG at @ignacio_anzaldo.

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