Heidi and Ellen talk to Kate and Meghan. Kate is off to college in the fall. She is in a serious relationship and wonders about the pros and cons of staying together as she embarks on this new journey. Meghan is just back home in the States after a few years in New Zealand where she had a job she really disliked. She has a small clue about her next steps but is feeling a lack of clarity. Ellen and Heidi also talk about the two wonderful shows "McCartney 321' on Hulu and 'Trying' on Apple TV +.