Heidi and Ellen are in conversation with Laurie Wagner, a Bay Area writer and writing teacher. Laurie’s focus over the last 20 years has been Wild Writing, a super creative, loose writing practice that helps people get out of their heads and into the more intuitive, instinctual sound of their own voice. We look at three big moments in Laurie’s life, and deep dive into what was happening at that time both career-wise and astrologically. This new monthly feature of the podcast provides a deep dive into how and why people make certain career decisions and the astrological forces that support them along the way.