“What does growth without striving look like?”

Rita Barry posed this question 3 years ago, and it’s stuck with me ever since.

In this episode, I talk with Rita about the journey she’s been on to answer that question as her company has exploded. We dive into validation-seeking, social conditioning, and identifying what you really want in the face of so much “common sense” about what success looks like.

You’ll hear Rita’s story, plus commentary from writer Anne Helen Petersen (via Librairie Drawn & Quarterly) and psychoanalyst Paul Verhaeghe (via Renegade Inc).

Find out more about Rita Barry at ritabarry.co

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