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As more (Moore?) sexual harassment revelations (the Al Franken story was breaking as we were recording this show) appear, we thought it might be good to take a breather and visit (by phone) our old friend and ardent Ricochet fan, Purdue University President Mitch Daniels. We talk about the state of higher education, what he's doing at Purdue to combat student debt, and the place of academic institutions in society as a whole. But it's not all academic, as we're then joined by Washington Post political correspondent and host of PBS's Washington Week In Review';s Bob Costa. he gives us the skinny on everything happening in Alabama and DC.

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