Willy Vlautin is the guest on this week's special Thanksgiving Day episode of the podcast.

He is the author of seven novels including Lean on Pete, The Motel Life, and The Night Always Comes. His new book is The Horse. He is the founder of the bands Richmond Fontaine and The Delines.

Willy reflects on his life journey and working-class roots, the challenges of being creative for a living, how music helps to sustain him, and what it means to him to write working-class stories about strivers and survivors and why janitors and waitresses deserve their own novels too.

Chauncey DeVega continues his crusade against traditional Thanksgiving turkey dinners, and reflects on questions of gratitude and our collective and individual emotions in this time of great troubles and uncertainty following the 2024 Election and what comes next.

And Chauncey wades into the great controversary of the day: How should you navigate your relationship this Thanksgiving, the holiday season and beyond with your Trump-supporting family member(s)?

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