We catch up with former beauty editor Cat Marnell, the author of How to Murder Your Life and creator of the Patreon column Beautyshambles. She reminisces about the heyday of magazines and tells us she's ready for her next creative endeavor now that she’s healthy (she says she wishes she could use the word “sober” because she's "so close"). We discuss how her relationship with her appearance changed during rehab, and talk about $4,000 pillows, $3 eyeliners, and what she and her friends (Julia Fox, Leah McSweeny, Rachel Rabbit White, et al.) do for fun.

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