Heidi and Ellen talk to Marquisha and Mary. Marquisha is a professor. She is a planner and likes to think about the future. She has some expansive ideas and wonders if she should go all out or build more locally and slowly. Mary has had a long and winding path to get to event planning and then to floral design. She recently moved across the country for a great job opportunity that did not pan out. She is now jobless in a new small town with no professional network and is trying to figure out how to proceed. Ellen and Heidi also talk about the books Atlas of the Heart by Brene Brown; This is Your Destiny by Aliza Kelly; The Hulu series The Great with Elle Fanning and Nicholas Hoult; and Jane Campion’s new film The Power of the Dog.