If you've been listening to this podcast, you've heard us talk about Pablo. Our mentor, our coach, the catalyst who nudged us to start this whole thing in the first place. He's the one who saw through the noise when we couldn't see ourselves clearly, who asked the questions that made us uncomfortable in the best way, and who has walked alongside us through our deepest transformations. Today, you finally get to hear from him directly.

This conversation is a gift. Not just because you're hearing Pablo's voice and his story, but because his journey from professional tennis coach to heart work guide is woven with the same pain, false identities, and breakthrough moments that so many of us navigate. He doesn't do surface level work. His work comes from a place of having lived it himself, from bleeding life away from his own heart for years before discovering what it actually means to be real instead of good.

🔥 In This Episode:

• How Pablo's childhood trauma and his name change from Juan Pablo to just Pablo became the false identity he built to survive, and the journey of discovering who he actually was underneath
• The powerful truth that the tennis court (and life) is a mirror, and getting upset is just breaking the mirror because you don't like what you see
• Why gratitude journals and self help books can start conversations but will never dive you into the actual wounding, and what makes Pablo's work different from traditional therapy
• The blueprint concept: we're all given different questions in life, so copying someone else's answers will only destroy your own way because you're using the wrong North Star
• Control, resignation, or active surrender: the three places we live our lives, and why holding life loosely is the only way to stop the exhausting cycle between forcing and preventing

Life is not about being good. Life is about being real. This conversation with Pablo shows you exactly what that means.

Connect with Pablo: 

• Website: https://www.tzs.world/ 
• Instagram: @pabgia and @thezonespace 
• Newsletter: Join here 
• Books: Holding On Loosely and The Modern Fig Leaf

Connect with us: 

• Instagram: @drsaranelsongray, @dr.marisa.nicole10, @theheartworkpodcast 
• Email: [email protected]

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