Heidi and Ellen interview Kate and Kaylin. Kate wants to figure out how to change her relationship with money so she does not tie her self-worth to how much she makes. Kaylin is an ambitious and hardworking person who has a great new career opportunity but at the same time, has a deep longing to just stop and go inward. Both dilemmas are great examples of 'Should versus Must'. We talk about the podcast 'Ologies', the documentary 'The Fight,' and the Netflix delight- 'Bridgerton'. We also talk about Ellen's new ReLaunch class and Heidi's books 'Twelve Love Letters'.