Heidi and Ellen are in conversation with Vera Santamaria. They look at three big moments in Vera's life and the career serendipity and astrology that supported her. Vera is an extraordinarily talented feature and television writer whose career spans multiple genres and two countries.  Most recently, she was an Executive Producer / Writer on Hulu's second season of PEN15, sharing in the series' 2021 Emmy nomination for Outstanding Comedy and WGA Award nomination for Best Comedy. In addition to writing for Marvel Studios and Apple TV+’s upcoming star-studded anthology series, ROAR, last year she also penned her first feature, a sought-after original comedy sold to 20th Century Fox. Her other television work includes the critically acclaimed Orange Is The New Black, BoJack Horseman, Playing House, and Community.  In Canada, she wrote for Degrassi: The Next Generation and Little Mosque on the Prairie ultimately landing her own series loosely based on her life, How To Be Indie.