Adam and Eric are Out of Breath. Adam sits down with Abdullah Mahmood, the Administrative Coordinator of the gambling program at Maryhaven. Abdullah shares what inspired him to enter the field, how he moved from chemical dependency into gambling disorders, and why he takes pride in educating himself to connect with those he serves—even without lived experience of gambling. The conversation explores the changing landscape of gambling treatment, where funding comes from, and why more research and prevalence studies are desperately needed. Abdullah’s optimism for the future shines through, and the episode closes with Adam stepping back into 2018, imagining his first appointment, to give listeners a rare glimpse of what that first meeting with a clinician might actually feel like.

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