[This episode was recorded just before the sudden death of Dale Sales, legendary Dad and human. He is much mourned.] Crabb feels a bit off kilter when Sales is nice to her for the second episode in a row, but everything returns to normal when she is subjected to some Salesplaining. Crabb and Sales reflect on some recent True Crime Podcasts and whether this format is a beacon of hope for investigative journalism.

• Community: Salad Recipes from Arthur Street Kitchen - by Hetty McKinnon
• Neighbourhood: Salads, Sweets and Stories From Home and Abroad - by Hetty McKinnon
• Family: New Vegetable Classics to Comfort and Nourish - by Hetty McKinnon
• Hetty McKinnon and Annabel Crabb in Conversation for SWF - Giant Dwarf Theatre, 29 August 2018
• Teacher's Pet - Podcast by Hedley Thomas from The Australian
• Unravel - ABC True Crime Podcast
• - Blood on the Tracks
• Trace - ABC Podcast with Rachael Brown
• Bowraville Murders - Podcast by Dan Box from The Australian
• One Hundred Years of Dirt - by Rick Morton
• The Peacock Summer - by Hannah Richell

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