This week, Heidi and Ellen switch things around when Heidi interviews Ellen. Ellen began her career as an attorney specializing in death penalty cases. After practicing law for 17 years, she reinvented her career and launched her first business, a bakery, followed by a garden and floral design company. She's also the co-founder and former director of MEarth, a 10-acre environmental education learning center that served 2,500 students each year. Ellen is a certified Designing Your Life coach and certified Wild Writing™ instructor. Typically clients hire her when they want something really bad...but..they're feeling overwhelmed about how to make it happen. Through her private coaching, Ellen helps her clients set goals, get unstuck, and get things moving. She offers Chart Your Career sessions in collaboration with Heidi and they are the co-hosts of the podcast Chart Your Career.

Ellen loves having deep conversations about the process of building a meaningful life and career. But nothing makes her happier than Sunday night dinners with her family.