Welcome to the MoreCheeseLessWhiskers podcast. My name is Dean Jackson. Today we have a very interesting episode. It's the first time we've had two guests on the show.

Andres Aras and Ronin Wu are two married guys who help 'nice guys' meet, date and potentially marry by developing quality relationships. They take a slightly different approach and help the guys develop skills, becoming the kind of guy the women they are looking to attract want to meet.

So far they've been focusing on boot camps to help people learn their approach but today we talked a lot about how to really focus on getting the result for people. Potentially creating something that could be 10 times more valuable to both them and their clients.

I think you're going to learn a lot from this episode about really focusing on your ability to get results and letting the marketing be driven from that.

Enjoy this episode.

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