Today on the More Cheese Less Whiskers podcast we're talking with Johnny Hempen from Tacoma, Washington. I've known Johnny for several years, ever since he was a client of our real estate programs despite being a contractor, a painter.

He's been in business for a long time, and we had a great conversation today about how to really maximize his experience, how to turn it into something that's unique in the marketplace.

He's really a student of direct marketing and the 8 Profit Activators, and he has a real love for the before unit, the lead generation and getting people to think new thoughts and raise their hand.

He loves the idea of narrowing his focus and we ended up having a conversation about turning what he does to generate painting leads, into a competitive advantage for car dealerships.

You'll love how the conversation evolves to that point and the thinking process of elevating what it is you do, into something that's beyond a commodity. Helping people actually achieve the result they're hoping to get.

If you can attach your product or service onto something they're already seeking, and they look at you as an advantage to achieving that, that's the big lesson here.

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