In this interview I am joined by Loch Kelly M.Div., LCSW, author, meditation teacher, psychotherapist, and founder of the Effortless Mindfulness Institute.

Loch recounts his early mystical experiences, his first encounters with Transcendental Meditation and Zen, and considers the possible influences of past lives on early-life spirituality.

Loch presents his effortless awakening approach and reflects on why people still pursue arduous meditation practice paths when more direct paths exist.

Loch also discusses whether his style of awakening is equivalent to the great masters of the past, details the innovations that differentiate his teaching from traditional and other nondual systems, and comments on the interactions between awakening and mental health.

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Video version: https://www.guruviking.com/podcast/ep133-glimpses-of-awakening-loch-kelly

Also available on Youtube, iTunes, & Spotify – search ‘Guru Viking Podcast’.

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Topics Include:

00:00 - Intro

00:51 - Loch’s new app

03:26 - Childhood glimpses and upbringing

12:48 - Studying TM and Zen

16:35 - Past lives and proclivity for spiritual experiences

25:10 - Why do people try so hard to get enlightened?

33:53 - Why do enlightened masters still advocate traditional methods when direct methods exist?

41:59 - What are Loch’s innovations? In what ways does his approach move beyond traditional and other nondual systems?

50:49 - Is Loch’s awakening equivalent to the Buddha, Milarepa, and Linji?

58:34 - Loch’s glimpse teachings

01:00:03 - Does Loch stress test his awakening?

01:08:10 - Glimpsing with psychological material

01:08:56 - The stress test of New York City

01:12:52 - Comments on awakening, mental health, ADHD and neuroscience

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To find our more about Loch Kelly, visit:

- https://lochkelly.org/em

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- www.guruviking.com

Music ‘Deva Dasi’ by Steve James