Today on the More Cheese Less Whiskers podcast we're talking with Dillon Hill & Clay Stevens from Sacramento, California, and they have a really great story.

They started out doing something to support a friend who was diagnosed with cancer. They helped him complete as many 'bucket list' items as they could, they documented their journey, and that really got a lot of traction out in the world.

Now they are trying to help other people with cancer, knock things off their bucket lists.

We were trying to figure out how to model their first success, how to set something so that they can do it full time, and during the call we actually texted my friend Nick Nanton, who's an 11 times Emmy winning movie documentary producer, director, who jumped on the call with us to do some brainstorming.

So this is a little longer episode than we normally have, but I think that you'll get a lot out of the conversation that will guide how to really think about setting up something new, so that you get a context and a structure that's sustainable.

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