Things You Learn in Therapy

Ep158: Holding Space: Why Therapy Still Matters with Michele Mani


Listen Later

Send a text

Start with joy, stay for the honesty. We open with a decades-strong book club that thrives on simple rules—one host, one book, one clean bathroom—and use it as a living example of how small, consistent structures create deep connection. That same clarity shows up in therapy: reliability, presence and a shared space where stories can land without judgment. Michele Mani, a registered psychotherapist and clinical supervisor from Ontario, joins the show to explore the real work behind the work—how clinicians find flow, protect their energy and choose careers that move with the current instead of against it.

Together, we name the quiet privileges of the therapy room and the real weight it can carry. We talk about normalizing the “unsaid” that so many clients bring—loneliness in long-term relationships, fear about the world, grief that lingers—and why gratitude and humility steady us when the job feels heavy. For therapists, there’s a candid look at strengths-based practice: reframing “weaknesses” as non-dominant strengths, designing days around your zone of genius, and building practical systems for notes, goals and continuity so presence can lead the hour. If spreadsheets drain you and client work fuels you, this is a blueprint for sustainable practice.

An AMA question from a non-therapist adds a powerful turn: how do you help someone who believes therapy can’t help? We unpack a compassionate response—honor the hopelessness without arguing, then open the tiniest door to change, a “finger of possibility.” No promises, no pressure. Just one fully present session to test what connection can do. That blend of simple structure, honest strengths, and light-held hope turns out to be useful everywhere—around a dinner table, across a therapy screen, and inside a life that wants to move forward without burning out.

If this conversation resonates, share it with a friend, send us your AMA questions, and follow the show so you never miss Part Two. Your review helps more people find a little structure, a little hope and a lot of heart.


This podcast is meant to be a resource for the general public, as well as fellow therapists/psychologists. It is NOT meant to replace the meaningful work of individual or family therapy. Please seek professional help in your area if you are struggling. #breakthestigma #makewordsmatter #thingsyoulearnintherapy #thingsyoulearnintherapypodcast

If you or someone you know is struggling with mental health concerns, please contact 988 or seek a treatment provider in your area.

If you are a therapist or psychologist and want to be a guest on the show, please complete this form to apply: https://forms.gle/ooy8QirpgL2JSLhP6

Feel free to share your thoughts at www.makewordsmatterforgood.com or email me at [email protected]

Support the show

www.bethtrammell.com

...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Things You Learn in TherapyBy Beth Trammell PhD, HSPP

  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5
  • 4.5

4.5

24 ratings


More shows like Things You Learn in Therapy

View all
This American Life by This American Life

This American Life

91,271 Listeners

The Joe Rogan Experience by Joe Rogan

The Joe Rogan Experience

229,593 Listeners

Therapist Uncensored Podcast by Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

1,394 Listeners

Pod Save America by Pod Save America

Pod Save America

87,997 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

113,527 Listeners

Modern Wisdom by Chris Williamson

Modern Wisdom

4,015 Listeners

Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend by Team Coco & Earwolf

Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

59,586 Listeners

SmartLess by Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes, Will Arnett

SmartLess

58,504 Listeners

Giggly Squad by Hannah Berner & Paige DeSorbo

Giggly Squad

15,344 Listeners

Huberman Lab by Scicomm Media

Huberman Lab

29,295 Listeners

Good Inside with Dr. Becky by Good Inside

Good Inside with Dr. Becky

4,530 Listeners

The Mel Robbins Podcast by Mel Robbins

The Mel Robbins Podcast

20,515 Listeners

The Oprah Podcast by Harpo

The Oprah Podcast

1,671 Listeners

Good Hang with Amy Poehler by The Ringer

Good Hang with Amy Poehler

12,693 Listeners

The Telepathy Tapes by Ky Dickens

The Telepathy Tapes

8,883 Listeners