SUMMARY In this conversation, Jeremy Lesniak and Jadi Tention explore the multifaceted world of martial arts, focusing on the balance between competition, teaching, and personal growth. They discuss the importance of understanding violence, the role of instructors, and the need for martial artists to evolve and adapt. The conversation emphasizes the significance of community, passion, and the responsibility of instructors to foster an environment where students can thrive and express themselves.

TAKEAWAYS • Martial arts should blend different styles for better understanding. • Point fighting has its own unique value despite criticism. • Understanding violence is essential for martial artists. • Self-defense should be practical and applicable in real situations. • Instructors must balance teaching with being students themselves. • The community aspect of martial arts is vital for growth. • Passion for martial arts drives success in teaching. • Students should be encouraged to express themselves and evolve. • Martial arts training is a journey of continuous learning and unlearning.