My guest in this episode is the wonderful Laura Storm. Laura is a visionary, a pioneering human in the field of regeneration. Laura first appeared on this podcast in EP 13 in 2019.

Laura is a highly in-demand keynote speaker, advisor and teacher and launched the regenerative leadership learning platform - Regenerators dedicated to reimagine leadership systems and ways of living to align with the wisdom of living systems.

I reached out to Laura recently, not to talk more about the possibilities of regenerative leadership, but really to have a chat about this moment, the moment of stuckness, as I tend to describe it.

I wanted to explore some of what Laura has been tending to following her intentional withdrawal from the limelight in 2024 - to investigate the topics of death and endings and how that's showing up in the world of business and organisational leadership and what was pulling her towards that.

I really appreciate these kinds of moves from leaders like Laura, this integrity, honesty and humility and being true to oneself right now.

So this conversation asks - what if regeneration begins not with new ideas, but with learning how to let go?

It's an open, vulnerable chat on why our current moment calls for more than new strategies or better leadership models.

What does it mean to become life-affirming in a world shaped by extraction and why every genuine transformation seems to require paying real attention to some form of grief, surrender and ending.

The conversation moves from corporate boardrooms to forests and rivers between inner and outer regeneration, exploring how resilience might be found not through hardening ourselves, but through deeper relationships, connection, belonging, listening, and our capacity to stay present with uncertainty and loss.

This is a conversation about endings, but even more, it's a conversation about the kind of presence that allows something genuinely new to emerge.

I hope you receive something through this conversation and please do let us know, comment, and share with someone else who might appreciate this if you do.

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