Gabby is worried that we don't have enough of a bedrock for our episodes but Mel is embracing of the whimsy. Very mixed messages/role reversal for us. This episode brings a middle of the night house emergency, why we love listening to regular people podcasts, our fav true crime shows or docs and Mel's deep connection to Paul Mescal via working at the Maxol filling station.

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