We continue a new year of Clean Sport podcasts with another amazing guest as 2018 Boston Marathon Champion Desiree Linden joins Kara and Chris on the show.

You know Des as a two-time Olympian in the marathon with 3 podium finishes in World Marathon Majors including two second place finishes at Boston and Chicago, and then of course her epic win in Boston in 2018 in nor'easter conditions. But, do you know how she started in sport? Did you know that her favorite event in high school and college was the 1500 and that she begged her coach not to make her race longer distances?

We get that history plus much more about her career in this open and honest conversation that includes a recap of her heartbreaking near-win in Boston in 2011 and the heroic run that brought redemption in Boston in 2018.

Plus, Des gives us her straightforward perspective on competing against doped athletes, why the Olympics has lost some luster for her, what she thinks about the performance-enhancing shoes, and of course, what she wants to see done in order to clean up the sport for future generations.

One of the things we love about Des is that she isn't afraid to speak her mind, and on this episode she doesn't disappoint. We are excited to see her compete for another Olympic team at the Marathon Trials in Atlanta on February 29th and then go after another Boston title shortly thereafter on April 20th.