On this episode, our guest is Phyllis B. Frank, the Senior Director of VCS, a mental health counseling and family service agency.  Phyllis has dedicated herself to the battered women’s movement for the past 40 plus years, starting the first NY Model for Batterer Programs.  

Phyllis is here to talk to us about the program and its impact, its shortcomings, and other ways to strengthen our systems to hold abusers accountable.

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