In this enlightening and educational episode, Andrew and Matthew host Glenn Branch, deputy director of the NCSE, to talk about the Kitzmiller case, what it achieved and what it means for intelligent design.

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Commentary on the book 'Of Pandas and People':

https://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2018/01/11/of_pandas_and_people_a_brief_history_of_the_original_intelligent_design_textbook.html

Don't Call it Darwinism: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225311563_Don't_Call_it_Darwinism

ACLU page on the trial: https://www.aclu.org/other/trial-kitzmiller-v-dover

The Demonisation of Jack Kevorkian: https://opencommons.uconn.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1103&context=srhonors_theses

Bad Frog Beer: https://www.badfrog.com/

Creationism's Trojan Horse: https://www.amazon.com/Creationisms-Trojan-Horse-Intelligent-Design/dp/0195319737

Trial Transcript: https://ncse.ngo/kitzmiller-trial-transcripts

Monkey Girl: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B000OYEWJM/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

The Devil in Dover: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0041G6RV0/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

The Pillars of Creationism: https://ncse.ngo/pillars-creationism

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