Damn! You guys are in for a treat with this episode! This week we welcome our FIRST EVER guest to the podcast: our dear friend and psychotherapist Michelle Leeder! Michelle sits down with us to chat about how we can hold space well for each other as friends when times are tough and how to navigate setting boundaries in friendships. 

You can find out more about Michelle here: https://michelle-leeder.com/

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