We talked about what leaders can learn from stand up comedy, how to innovate during the crisis, getting comfortable with failure, why traditional leadership is over and how we can rebuild it, and what a digital first future could look like. We also discussed how to create more diverse teams. Finally, we chatted about cake.

Zoe talks about The Charity Digital Skills Report and what she thinks it means for the sector, and she and Paul share their observations on how the arts and music industry are using digital to create new relationships with fans.

Notes and links -

The Charity Digital Skills Report

http://report.skillsplatform.org/charity-digital-report-2020/

Nick Cave’s The Red Hand Files

https://www.theredhandfiles.com/

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Editing by Paul Thomas and production from Alexey Sibikin

Music by Joseph McDade https://josephmcdade.com/music