Listen in as we hang out with the legendary Pedro Sauer. We get into what it was like to start BJJ with the Gracies and how everyday was a fight. How we have gotten smarter with training over the years. We even talk a little about Helio Gracie and how he was a very stubborn man but was so smooth like silk on the mats. Pedro quit a lucrative business job to move to America and start a school training BJJ and at that moment was being challenged to fight everyday just to prove Brazilian jiu-jitsu is the most superior martial art around. Pedro even gives a first hand account of losing one of his greatest students, the great Keith Owen earlier this year. It was such a great privilege and honor for us to hang with Pedro, so please sit back and enjoy the show!

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