Chip Conley is an entrepreneur, the author of many books including "Wisdom at Work," and is the co-founder of the Modern Elder Academy. During our conversation, Chip talks about founding, running, and eventually selling Joie de Vivre Hospitality, mentoring both California Governor Gavin Newsom and Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky, and the role of elders in contemporary and ancestral societies.

Chip aims to change the purpose, the usefulness, and the cultural esteem of one of our most untapped resources: our elders. In a society obsessed with youth and fearful of aging, our elders have an abundance of the quality most apt to avoid mistakes, improve decision-making, and increase overall health and wellness: wisdom.

If Chip is successful in propelling the growth and the influence of his Modern Elder Academy, and its offshoot Regenerative Communities - an attempt to disrupt, innovate, and improve senior living - I believe he and his team will help us improve as a culture, provide meaning to people as they age, and mature our civilization.

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(00:00) Intro

(02:32) Chip's interest in wisdom and elders

(05:22) What is wisdom?

(08:51) Chip's wisdom gained through suffering

(13:44) The ancestral role of elders in society

(20:20) "Of Boys And Men"

(25:19) The Modern Elder Academy

(30:22) Elders: our great, untapped resource

(37:14) Carl Jung, the ego, and the soul

(46:29) Regenerative Communities: transforming senior living

(51:44) How would America change if we elevated our elders?