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What’s going to be the next pandemic? For a long time you might’ve seen news stories about the current threat of H5N1 bird flu, but you probably haven’t paid much attention.

In this episode of The Studies Show, Tom and Stuart try and work out how worried we should be. Are COVID-scarred people freaking out over nothing? Or are we at the start of something much scarier?

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Show notes

* The UK’s “Influenza Pandemic Preparedness Strategy”

* “Of course the UK had a herd immunity strategy”

* Tom’s article on “the men who failed Britain”

* The CDC on types of influenza virus

* 2025 Harvard Medical School article on H5N1 bird flu

* Article on the wild animal deaths caused by bird flu in the current outbreak

* And the same for domestic animals

* Egg prices! 1, 2

* 2011 paper on haemagglutinin in avian flu viruses and its infectiousness to humans

* Pigs as the “mixing vessel” for flu viruses

* And the potential for cows to be the same

* The controversial 2012 Science paper that modified a blue flu virus to be more infectious

* The WHO’s seeming low level of concern about the bird flu outbreak

* Pasteurised milk and its effects on bird flu transmission

* The Swift Centre’s forecasts for the bird flu outbreak

* Scott Alexander’s big piece on bird flu

* The evidence for the effect of antivirals on bird flu

* DOGE cuts to a programme that monitored bird flu in dairy products, and to animal monitoring

Credits

We’re very grateful to Claire Wang for her help with researching this episode. The Studies Show is produced by Julian Mayers at Yada Yada Productions.

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