Recruiting is No Joke

Episode 77: Navigating Job Hopping, Layoffs, and the New Job Market Landscape


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Are you still clinging to the belief that a polished resume is your golden ticket to landing that dream job? It’s time to rethink. In today’s whirlwind of recruitment trends, LinkedIn updates, TikTok tips, and social media frenzy, your online presence is just as crucial as your resume. With giants like Salesforce, Walmart, and Zoom pushing people back to the office, and mouse jigglers surfacing amid heightened monitoring, not to mention the rising layoffs and burnout in healthcare, there’s so much more to consider. Ready to navigate this brutal job market? 

In this episode of "Recruiting is No Joke," we dive into the complexities of today’s job market and how social media is reshaping recruitment. We kick off the conversation with a warm introduction to Lauren Surman, founder of LWL Consulting and our insightful co-host.

The conversation explores the tension between social media and traditional resumes, particularly in light of a viral post suggesting that social media presence may outweigh resumes in hiring decisions. We analyze this notion, highlighting that while social media is crucial for visibility, resumes still hold significant value. We also cover the balancing act between client searches and business development, tackle the issue of burnout in healthcare, and offer guidance on addressing employment gaps. We wrap up by discussing return-to-office mandates, the role of leadership in cultivating office culture, and the benefits of in-person interactions. This episode provides a thorough look at the evolving recruitment landscape, blending practical insights with a touch of humor to help job seekers and recruiters navigate these challenging times.

Tune in to discover actionable tips on balancing your social media presence with your resume, insights into overcoming burnout, and strategies for thriving in the current job market.

In this episode:

  • (01:03) Introduction to  Lauren Surman
  • (02:10) Lauren's show overview
  • (03:42) Lauren's business growth
  • (04:19) Outbound recruitment strategies
  • (05:33) Discussion on resume vs. social media 
  • (07:09) Lauren's take on social media's importance vs resume
  • (09:24) Impact of social media on hiring
  • (10:37) LinkedIn poll results
  • (14:07) Job market overview
  • (15:47) Industry-specific hiring insights
  • (18:07) The importance of part-time jobs
  • (18:41) Navigating job interviews with side hustles
  • (19:15) Bridge jobs and their value
  • (19:47) Advice for presenting current work
  • (20:39) Openness to employment gaps
  • (21:49) Transparency in recruitment
  • (23:02) Job market realities
  • (25:33) Corporate job market trends
  • (27:21) Return to office mandates
  • (29:11) Tracking employee activity
  • (30:42) Remote work preferences
  • (31:41) Office dynamics and budget concerns
  • (33:27) Leadership and office presence
  • (35:26) Remote work and pizza
  • (36:20) Preparing for layoffs
  • (37:51) Job market anxiety
  • (39:57) Candidate questions on layoffs
  • (42:15) Chipotle's controversial LinkedIn promotion offering free food 
  • (43:00) Misleading job applications
  • (46:23) Recruitment and job boards
  • (48:51) Closing remarks and Lauren's upcoming projects

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.


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About Our Guest

Lauren Surman is the Founder of LWL Consulting, a specialized recruiting agency excelling in SaaS, executive search, sales, and tech recruitment. Known for her "figure-it-out-no-matter-what" mentality, Lauren is magnetic, passionate, and earned the nickname "The Bad Girl of LinkedIn." Her diverse background—from hospitality to construction—equips her with a unique perspective and a well-rounded skill set. Lauren’s expertise in sales and tech recruitment, coupled with her engaging live show, "Friday Live with Lauren," offers fresh insights and keeps the industry connected and informed. She has managed teams of 100+, closed deals up to $1.2 million, and served as Mr. Marriott's personal server. Beyond work, she cherishes her role as a mom to her 6-year-old son, Axel, and enjoys golfing, spending time with her dogs, and beach sunrises. Her motto, "If I can't, my network can," reflects her belief in the power of collaboration and meaningful connections.

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