Warren Farrell is a political scientist, a former board member of the National Organization for Women (NOW), and the author of many books, including "The Boy Crisis," the focus of this conversation. During our conversation, Warren talks about his time at NOW, second wave and modern feminism, the gender pay gap, what he learned when he stopped lecturing at and started listening to men, and the historic and current role of men in society

He also talks about the reasons for the decline in male sperm count over the past two generations, the role of men in war, why fathers are so important and what children learn from them, and contemporary male and female college graduation rates.

Warren notes during the interview that perhaps the most important line in his book is: "The Boy Crises resides where dads do not reside." He is one of the world's experts on this topic, and is at his best during this interview. It was a privilege to host it.

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(00:00) Intro

(01:58) "I am sorry for being a man"

(06:11) Warren's schism with NOW over the importance of dads

(14:29) How we know dads matter

(20:40) What Warren learned from listening to men

(25:54) Why the sacrifices of men are largely unknown

(29:58) Quotes from "The Boy Crisis"

(32:13) Sperm count in modern men

(42:18) What dads provide to their kids

(49:10) Why sperm count is declining

(52:18) The future and the proper role of men