Science Fictions

Episode 84: Brain training


Listen Later

5—6—3—4—3—1—7—2

In the first episode under our new podcast name (it’s now the Science Fictions podcast!), we ask whatever happened to all those games that claimed to tell you your “brain age”—games that turned into a whole scientific literature on brain training.

We discuss: the still-unresolved question of whether training one specific cognitive ability makes you generally smarter; seemingly endless contrasting meta-analyses; and the small matter of what brain training might tell us about the nature of intelligence.

(If you can repeat the list of numbers from the top in reverse order then you have the brain of a 25-year-old. If you’re 25 or younger, then I don’t know what to tell you.)

We’re now an official part of the Works in Progress podcast world. You can find their other podcasts, including Hard Drugs, the one we talked about on today’s episode (about the remarkable development of a drug for HIV), at podcast.worksinprogress.co.

Show notes

* The 2008 PNAS paper that started the craze for working memory training

* The under-discussed rebuttal

* 2013 meta-analysis concluding there’s no evidence for far transfer

* 2015 meta-analysis concluding there is no convincing evidence brain training is effective

* 2016 meta-analysis saying there is no convincing evidence brain training is NOT effective

* Very useful and detailed 2016 review of the evidence and the methodological issues inherent in brain training (including active vs. passive control groups)

* 2020 meta-meta-analysis arguing that the active-passive distinction doesn’t matter

* 2023 review criticising the meta-meta-analysis

* And the authors’ own 2020 meta-analysis

* 2022 meta-analysis of commercial brain training in older people

Credits

The Science Fictions podcast is produced by Julian Mayers at Yada Yada Productions.



This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit sciencefictionspod.substack.com/subscribe
...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Science FictionsBy Tom Chivers and Stuart Ritchie

  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6

4.6

60 ratings


More shows like Science Fictions

View all
More or Less: Behind the Stats by BBC Radio 4

More or Less: Behind the Stats

889 Listeners

Very Bad Wizards by Tamler Sommers & David Pizarro

Very Bad Wizards

2,668 Listeners

In Our Time by BBC Radio 4

In Our Time

5,433 Listeners

Conversations with Tyler by Mercatus Center at George Mason University

Conversations with Tyler

2,423 Listeners

Page 94: The Private Eye Podcast by Page 94: The Private Eye Podcast

Page 94: The Private Eye Podcast

341 Listeners

Robert Wright's Nonzero by Nonzero

Robert Wright's Nonzero

590 Listeners

The Good Fight by Yascha Mounk

The Good Fight

904 Listeners

Blocked and Reported by Katie Herzog and Jesse Singal

Blocked and Reported

3,815 Listeners

Dwarkesh Podcast by Dwarkesh Patel

Dwarkesh Podcast

488 Listeners

Decoding the Gurus by Christopher Kavanagh and Matthew Browne

Decoding the Gurus

957 Listeners

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg by Spencer Greenberg

Clearer Thinking with Spencer Greenberg

132 Listeners

UnHerd with Freddie Sayers by UnHerd

UnHerd with Freddie Sayers

213 Listeners

Past Present Future by David Runciman

Past Present Future

323 Listeners

Origin Story by Podmasters

Origin Story

114 Listeners

Strong Message Here by BBC Radio 4

Strong Message Here

55 Listeners