In this episode, Jon Charbonneau hosts John Adler (Co-founder of Celestia) and Dankrad Feist (Researcher at the Ethereum Foundation) for a technical deep dive into designing modular blockchain stacks. The conversation is focused on understanding the subtle differences and design considerations between Celestia and Ethereum, covering fraud proofs versus KZG commitments, the importance of validator sets, Celestiums, and much more.

Show Notes:

(00:00:00) – Introduction.

(00:01:57) – On Data Availability (DA) and settlement.

(00:14:36) – Having a base asset that builds economic security from capturing fees.

(00:22:00) – Thoughts on L2 settlement & recursive L3 rollups as a strategy.

(00:29:10) – Celestia’s fraud proofs vs. Ethereum’s KZG commitments.

(00:42:53) – Tendermint vs. Gasper – the importance of validator sets.

(00:55:08) – Thoughts on Celestiums.

(01:03:48) – Closing thoughts.

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