The Delphi Podcast

Ethereum Layer 2 Rollup Debate: Optimism, Starkware, Arbitrum and zkSync


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The Delphi Podcast Host and GP of Delphi Ventures Tom Shaughnessy hosts an all star crew of all of the leading Ethereum Layer 2 Rollup scaling projects for an in-depth debate. See the transcript on our site as well.

  • Ed Felten, Fo-Founder of Off-chain Labs (Arbitrum)
  • Eli Ben-Sasson, Co-Founder of Starkware
  • Alex Gluchowski Founder of zkSync
  • Liam Horne, Contributor to Optimism 
  • Mark Tyneway, Systems Lead at Optimism 
  • Ben Simon, Investment Analyst at Mechanism Capital
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    Show Notes:

    2:00) - (First Question) Eli's Intro.

    (2:26) - Alex's Intro.
    (2:43) - Mark's Intro
    (2:57) - Liam's Intro.
    (3:17) - Ed's Intro.
    (3:40) - Ben's Intro.
    (4:30) - Optimistic roll-ups.
    (5:42) - Key differences between Arbitrum and Optimism.
    (8:13) - What is Starkware doing compared to Optimism.
    (11:20) - Optimistic vs ZK roll ups.
    (20:19) - Differences between fraud proofs and validity proofs.
    (29:07) - What would happen if the network splits and two parties propose progress in different directions?
    (21:18) - Mark thoughts on fraud proofs.
    (28:34) - Thoughts on attacks on Ethereum.
    (40:02) - Optimism and Arbitrum plans to reach high scale / Signatures / Price feeds
    (57:55) - Optimism progressing into production on Ethereum.
    (01:01:00) - Thoughts on bootstrapping usage and adoption - Starkware/zkSync/Optimism.
    (01:11:57) - Is the roll-up ecosystem going to be sort of a winner take all?
    (01:20:10) - Where to find Starkware.
    (01:20:55) - Where to find zkSync.
    (01:21:57) - Where to find Optimism.
    (01:22:43) - Where to find Arbitrum.
    (01:23:25) - Where to find Ben Simon.

     

    Resources:

    • Ed Felten, Fo-Founder of Off-chain Labs (Arbitrum)
  • Eli Ben-Sasson, Co-Founder of Starkware
  • Alex Gluchowski Founder of zkSync
  • Liam Horne, Contributor to Optimism 
  • Mark Tyneway, Contributor to Optimism
  • Ben Simon, Investment Analyst at Mechanism Capital
  • Tom’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/Shaughnessy119
  • Delphi Podcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/PodcastDelphi
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