Happy Wednesday! You know what that means – a brand new Everything in Conversation.

This week on the podcast we're diving into the viral essay that incinerated the timelines just before Christmas. Yes, we're talking about The Cut's Lilly Jay essay.

For anyone who doesn't know, last year stories of an alleged affair circulated around Ariana Grande and her Wicked co-star Ethan Slater. The pair soon went official, and his ex-wife Lilly Jay gained attention as a result.

The chat went all sorts of places, including why the media needs a villain in a possible cheating story, the scorned woman narrative, therapy, and our views on monogamy. 

Let us know what you thought of the essay and our conversation, and please leave us a review wherever you listen to podcasts. It really helps us out <3

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The Cut: How Did My Divorce Make You Feel

Vanity Fair: Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande on Love, Defying Rumors, and Flying High

Bonnier Books: Men Have Called Her Crazy

Apple podcasts: Las Culturistas

Apple podcasts: Where Should We Begin? with Esther Perel

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