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  • The Intricacies of Divorce Law: Across-State Examination

    Elizabeth Stephenson and Sarah J. Hink of New Direction Family Law introduce new attorney Tyler E. Kaestner, who recently moved from Pennsylvania to Raleigh, and discuss key differences between Pennsylvania and North Carolina family law and procedure. They compare divorce timelines and separation requirements (including Pennsylvania’s ability to be “separated” while living in the same home), custody processes using conciliation officers and Zoom conferences, and child support rules such as Pennsylvania’s lack of retroactive child support and use of net income. They also cover easier modification standards in Pennsylvania, shorter alimony durations there versus longer potential awards in North Carolina, North Carolina’s alienation of affection/criminal conversation claims and proposed legislative changes, and major differences in discovery and subpoena procedures. They warn against relying on Google/AI or friends for legal advice, noting AI outputs may be wrong and what you enter into AI may be discoverable.

    00:00 Child Support Shock

    00:44 Meet the Attorneys

    00:58 Tyler Joins the Firm

    02:21 Divorce Filing Rules

    03:06 What Counts as Separation

    04:50 NC Law May Change

    06:38 Custody Process Differences

    08:50 Out of State Orders

    09:53 Child Support Pitfalls

    12:46 Guidelines Net vs Gross

    13:40 Modifying Orders Loopholes

    14:31 Custody Mods Without Change

    15:42 Mediation Differences

    16:34 Conference Officer Path

    17:14 Alimony Rules Compared

    18:22 Alienation Claims Drama

    20:22 Affairs and Alimony Bars

    21:49 Subpoenas and Discovery Shock

    23:56 AI and Legal Pitfalls

    25:41 Pro Se TikTok Warnings

    26:52 Wrap Up and Thanks

    28 min
  • Navigating Narcissism: Unpacking Complex Relationships With Fauzia Faizi Shah

    Attorneys Elizabeth Stephenson, Sarah J. Hink, and Tyler E. Kaestner of New Direction Family Law talk with mental health professional Fauzia Faizi Shah about complex PTSD and narcissistic personality disorder and how these dynamics commonly surface in separation, divorce, and custody cases. Shah describes narcissistic traits and tactics such as gaslighting (changing someone’s reality), love-bombing and trauma bonding, boundary violations, manipulation, isolation, strength-shaming, and the repeating abuse cycle, and explains how victims may appear depressed or use substances as coping while the narcissistic partner thrives. The conversation focuses on protecting children, who may become “performers” for narcissistic parents, and on educating judges through seasoned evaluations and parenting capacity assessments, recommending supervised visitation when appropriate, therapy for children and the targeted parent, and legal boundaries like structured communication and parenting coordinators. Shah shares that her forthcoming book and online resources address complex PTSD, neurobiology, attachment, and healing.

    00:00 Kids as Performers

    00:47 Podcast Introductions

    01:29 Book on Complex PTSD

    02:26 Spotting Narcissism

    03:49 Gaslighting Explained

    04:31 Trauma Bond Cycle

    06:16 Abuse and Control

    07:29 Leaving and Safety

    07:54 Evaluations and Court

    14:15 Co Parenting Challenges

    16:07 Protecting the Children

    18:01 Courtroom Facades

    21:41 Custody Battle Tactics

    22:53 Coping Not Crazy

    23:32 DV Mental Health Toll

    24:04 Why It Feels Normal

    24:56 Neurobiology And Attachment

    26:32 Lawyer Strategy And Therapy

    27:35 Breaking Trauma Bonds

    29:45 Are Narcissists Increasing

    30:35 Resources And New Book

    31:37 Complex PTSD Explained

    32:47 Boundaries And Legal Shields

    34:33 Final Warnings Love Bombing

    36 min
  • Perinatal Mental Health: Understanding and Support With Veronica Kemeny

    Elizabeth Stevenson and Sarah J. Hink of New Direction Family Law, joined by associate attorney Tyler E. Kaestner, interview Veronica Kemeny, a licensed clinical social worker and co-owner of Anchor Perinatal Wellness in Raleigh, during Maternal Mental Health Awareness Month. They discuss perinatal mental health as an inclusive term covering trying to conceive, pregnancy, postpartum (up to two years), and non-birthing partners, and review conditions including depression, anxiety, OCD, PTSD, bipolar disorder, and psychosis. Kemeny explains warning signs such as impaired functioning and inability to sleep when given the chance, normalizes intrusive thoughts, and emphasizes the importance of trained providers due to stigma and misinterpretation. The conversation covers risk factors, medication concerns, impacts on relationships and divorce/custody cases, and resources like Postpartum Support International, nurse visiting programs, UNC’s perinatal inpatient unit, and Anchor’s intensive program, teletherapy, childcare, and free walk-in maternal mental health clinic at anchorperinatal.com.

    00:00 UNC Perinatal Units

    00:43 Meet the Guests

    01:40 Veronica and Anchor Program

    03:16 What Perinatal Mental Health Means

    04:36 When Symptoms Become Serious

    05:51 Red Flags Sleep and Safety

    07:20 Intrusive Thoughts and Stigma

    10:56 Screening and Provider Gaps

    12:23 Risk Factors and Prevention

    15:29 Resources Programs and Medication

    17:36 Social Media Comparison Trap

    17:52 Finding Realistic Support

    18:54 Marriage Strain After Baby

    19:22 Teamwork and Self Care Plan

    22:17 Sleep Boundaries and Visitors

    24:28 When to Seek Treatment

    25:44 Divorce and Custody Bias

    29:07 Free Nurse Visiting Programs

    30:25 How to Get Help

    31:42 Final Takeaways


    33 min
  • The Complexities of Co-Parenting: A Legal Perspective

    Attorneys Sarah Hink and Elizabeth Stevenson return from a hiatus on the Exit Strategy podcast to discuss why custody is often the hardest part of divorce and separation, including the emotional challenge of sharing time with children. They explain that in the North Carolina counties where they practice, courts often start from a 50/50 assumption tied to the child’s best interests and a relationship with both parents, then look for reasons to deviate such as domestic violence, substance abuse, mental health concerns, lack of involvement, or inconsistency. They cover tools like temporary arrangements, tiered custody schedules with treatment requirements, reunification therapy, custody/parent fitness evaluations, guardians ad litem, parent coordinators, and parallel parenting. They warn against false abuse claims, alienation, and putting children in the middle, noting records can follow families and even be found online later.

    00:00 Welcome Back Intro

    00:20 Why Custody Gets Heated

    00:43 Facing 50 50 Reality

    01:57 Courts Start at 50 50

    02:40 Give Them a Chance

    03:32 Custody Can Change

    04:00 Tiered Plans and Reunification

    05:35 Evaluations and Expert Help

    06:55 Parallel Parenting Tools

    07:31 Kids Feel the Conflict

    08:57 Legal Custody Decision Making

    09:42 Third Parties Can Sue

    10:11 Domestic Violence Impact

    11:10 False Claims Backfire

    11:56 Online Records and Kids Testifying

    13:23 Parental Alienation Consequences

    14:08 Honesty and Realistic Outcomes

    16:08 Wrap Up and Final Thoughts


    19 min
  • Divorce Decisions: Understanding North Carolina's Property Division

    Family law attorneys Sarah Hink and Elizabeth Stevenson of New Direction Family Law discuss North Carolina equitable distribution in divorce, emphasizing that most marital property and debt acquired from the date of marriage to the date of separation is typically divided 50/50, regardless of whose name it’s in, with values generally set as of separation. They explain separate property carve-outs (inheritances kept separate, premarital retirement/house interests) and when debts may be treated as separate (not benefiting the marriage). They warn against trying to manipulate accounts or incurring debt right before separation, and note most cases settle in required mediation if parties avoid “nickel-and-diming” personal property. They also highlight practical issues with houses, refinancing, credit risk, and the need to address property claims before an absolute divorce, which can waive equitable distribution rights.

    00:00 Mediation Pitfalls

    00:35 Meet the Attorneys

    00:57 Equitable Distribution Basics

    02:01 Marital Property Freeze Frame

    02:33 Unequal Splits and Misconduct

    03:44 Separate Property Exceptions

    05:02 Messy Assets and Businesses

    05:44 DIY Agreements and Prenups

    06:41 Pets and Personal Property

    07:17 Mediation and Nickel Dime Fights

    09:39 Home Values and Letting Go

    11:32 Debt Division and Credit Risks

    14:06 Bankruptcy and Final Warnings


    17 min
  • Divorce Survival Guide: Common Mistakes to Avoid

    Family law attorneys Elizabeth Stevenson and Sarah Hink of New Direction Family Law discuss common mistakes people make during separation and divorce, emphasizing that emotions can lead to regrettable decisions. They warn that social media posts, texts, DMs, and even posts by friends or family can be used in court, and note North Carolina is a one-party consent state where conversations may be legally recorded if the recorder is a participant. They advise clients to follow attorney guidance, timely provide required financial and other documents, and avoid hiding information. They caution against relying on “Google law degrees” or AI-generated content, which can be inaccurate and costly to review. They also stress avoiding reckless behavior (partying, DUIs), maintaining credibility with the judge, and being honest about finances and other issues.

    00:00 One Party Consent Warning

    00:35 Meet The Divorce Attorneys

    01:12 Social Media Can Sink You

    02:10 Texts DMs And Friends

    04:02 Recording Rules Explained

    04:41 Follow Legal Advice And Disclose

    05:39 Bad Advice And AI Pitfalls

    07:17 Reckless Behavior And Custody

    09:11 Honesty And Credibility In Court

    11:24 Money Mistakes And Hidden Assets

    12:16 Wrap Up Key Takeaways

    13:06 Final Sign Off


    15 min
  • 38 Billion and a Monkey

    High-Profile Celebrity Breakups & Legal Drama are making headlines. From romantic entanglements like Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift to legal battles such as the Coldplay Kiss Cam scandal and the divorce of Jeff Bezos, this episode grants an insider look into the legal ramifications of celebrity relationships. Get expert insights on prenups, custody battles, and much more. Also, tune in for a healthy dose of  humor involving pet monkeys. Don't miss out on this informative and entertaining episode.

    00:00 Introduction and Team Setup
    00:43 Family Law in the Headlines: The Coldplay Kiss Cam Incident
    05:14 Celebrity Relationships: Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift
    08:54 Courtney Thorne-Smith's Divorce
    11:50 Ryan Lochte's Custody Battle
    16:13 Jamie King and Kyle Newman's Unusual Custody Case
    17:01 Custody and Legal Decisions
    17:38 Supervised Visits and Drug Problems
    17:50 Understanding Shared Legal Custody
    18:50 Nightmares of Custody Orders
    19:40 Third-Party Decision Makers
    20:16 Celebrity Relationships and Prenups
    25:36 Kanye West's Controversial Actions
    27:41 Real Housewives Drama
    31:04 Cardi B and Offset's Public Disputes
    33:28 Jeff Bezos' Massive Alimony
    35:09 Concluding Thoughts and Monkeys

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    37 min
  • Understanding Parentage: Establishing & Disestablishing

    New Direction Family Law layers and staff discuss the complexities around parentage. They cover the process of establishing and disestablishing parentage, the legal implications, and the need for paternity actions. The team also explores issues related to legitimation actions, the legal challenges of changing a child's surname, and the complications that arise within same-sex parent families. Tune in for an informative discussion about the legal intricacies of parentage and the importance of having an attorney navigate these complicated matters.

    00:00 Introduction and Team Introduction
    00:36 Understanding Parentage: Establishing and Disestablishing
    01:10 Affidavit of Parentage: Hospital Procedures
    01:52 Paternity Tests and Legal Actions
    02:43 Legitimation Actions: Replacing the Wrong Dad
    03:36 Legal Implications of Birth Certificates
    05:30 Disestablishment of Paternity: Legal Steps
    07:41 Changing the Child's Surname
    10:52 Complexities in Same-Sex Parentage
    12:26 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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    15 min
  • Alienation of Affection and Criminal Conversation in North Carolina

    We unpack the complex and often controversial legal topics of Alienation of Affection and Criminal Conversation. They discuss the nuances, historical context, and practical implications of these laws, which are still recognized in a few states, including North Carolina. The conversation includes real-life cases, the pros and cons of pursuing such lawsuits, and the potential impacts on all parties involved.

    00:00 Introduction and Team Introduction
    01:01 Introducing the Topic: Alienation and Criminal Conversation
    01:33 Matt's Experience with Alienation Cases
    02:16 Legal Nuances and Publicity of Cases
    04:43 Breaking Down Alienation and Criminal Conversation
    05:50 Defenses and Legal Strategies
    07:20 Damages and Case Examples
    08:49 Challenges and Considerations in Pursuing Cases
    12:53 Mother-in-Law Drama
    13:34 Alienation of Affection Law
    13:54 Constitutional Concerns
    15:41 Jurisdiction Issues
    18:18 Office Affairs
    21:12 Connivance and Framing

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    24 min
  • Preparing for Court: The Do's and Don'ts

    Join lizabeth A. Stephenson and Sarah J. Hink from New Direction Family Law as they delve into crucial insights for clients preparing to testify in family court. Alongside Cam, their coordinator, they discuss the intricacies of courtroom procedures, the importance of honest and concise testimony, and how to handle cross-examinations and character witnesses. From what to wear to how to manage your emotions, gain valuable advice on presenting yourself effectively in court. Whether it's a custody case, financial disputes, or spousal support, this episode covers everything you need to know to navigate your court appearance with confidence.

    00:00 Introduction to New Direction Family Law
    00:57 Preparing Clients for Testimony
    01:46 Courtroom Basics and Client Preparation
    03:36 Direct and Cross-Examination Tips
    06:46 Character and Expert Witnesses
    09:54 Handling Emotions and Courtroom Etiquette
    11:08 The Importance of Genuine Emotions in Court
    11:23 Challenges Judges Face in Determining Credibility
    11:51 Handling Lies and Perjury in Court
    13:56 Using Text Messages and Emails as Evidence
    15:52 The Dangers of Faking Evidence
    17:16 Respecting Court Protocol and Behavior
    17:46 Financial Testimonies and Document Familiarity
    18:51 The Waiting Game for Court Rulings
    19:49 Preparing for Cross-Examination
    21:43 Character Witness Preparation

    24 min

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