XChateau Wine Podcast

Exploring Wine Tech w/ Julien Fayard, Fayard Winemaking


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Making wine in California, France, and even Serbia, consulting winemaker Julien Fayard has a broad view of the winemaking world. His constant monitoring, evaluation, and investment in winemaking technology benefit both his own and his clients’ wineries. Julien offers insight into winemaking technology on both sides of the Atlantic, as well as some of the specific technologies he utilizes. 


Detailed Show Notes: 

Julien’s background: French, came to the US in 2006 and worked for Phillipe Melka, started his consulting practice in 2013, built two wineries and manages three others; mostly Napa (~85%), but also makes wine from Sonoma, Sierra Foothills, Provence, Bordeaux, and Serbia

Uses trial & error to evaluate new winemaking technology

Usually, a trigger that causes each tech adoption

Hears about new tech from travel and conversations with other wineries and tech companies

French tech is mostly involved with wine contact (e.g., yeast, oak treatment), the US is mostly logistics, mechanization, automation of labor, and CA is slow to mechanize vineyard work

Monitors the slowly evolving knowledge base in winemaking - most tech innovations are slight derivatives of existing knowledge (e.g., sulfur automation)

To buy into a new tech: other people using it, company viability (and ability to scale), practicality of solution (e.g., barrel door for fermentation did not take into consideration time and the challenge to move between barrels)

ROI calculation includes cost savings, risk assessments, and quantity or quality improvements

Generally does not implement things that could move costs more than 10-20%

The most significant variable cost driver is when volume drops (e.g., waste, accidents, filtering, bulking out wine) - each tank is ~$100k of wine

Fruition Sciences did a lot of sap flow analysis, but never got mass adoption

Well monitoring technology is happening, and may be required soon

Communications modules for sensors are getting much cheaper, enabling more tech

Vinwizard (NZ) - wall winery automation

  • Started with pumpover automation (temp, speed)
  • Can control to avoid peak energy hours
  • Can set times for tanks to make temp-sensitive additions easier
  • Alarms for glycol system outages
  • Arkenstone was 1st Napa winery to adopt, learned from them, a solution more complete than TankNet
  • Min ~$50k cost

Innovint - winery SW management system

  • Creates all work orders, does costing, compliance, and traceability
  • Clients, CPAs, and compliance can see everything
  • A communication tool, very user-friendly

Sentia - hand wine analyzer (VA, malic, alcohol, SO2)

  • $2k/machine
  • <$1/use for strips
  • Uses a solid chemical reaction
  • “Fragile” tech, 1 in 30 results is way off, researching this with a Phd
  • Tried bungs with sensors, but requires a tech breakthrough to work

Oenofrance - a system for faster oak extraction

  • Put oak blocks (closest to staves) under pressure to extract oak flavors faster
  • $40k in oak to $4k (renting tech)
  • Costs ~$80-90k to buy machine

Excited about new destemmers, probes for monitoring wines (for “modern natural wine,” in-ground amphora aging)


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