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With the goal of living a purposeful life, Vida Valiente was founded in Napa as a combination luxury winery and charity. The foundation is focused on providing last dollar scholarships and mentorship to 1st generation college students. The winery is establishing a newly planted vineyard as the next “grand cru” site in Napa. Hayes and Susana Drumwright combine these two elements into a pathway to connect people who have succeeded with grit to the next generation through wine and impactful experiences.
Detailed Show Notes:
Susana’s background: career in tech, now full-time with the foundation and winery
Hayes’ background: had cancer early, many early failures, then sold a tech company and founded Memento Mori Winery in 2010, Vida Valiente in 2019, and just bought Edge Hill Winery in 2026; just published The Empty Center
Vida Valiente (“VV”) overview
Foundation founded to uplift 1st generation college students at Stanford
Napa in Cabo charity event, held by Vida Valiente
VV marketing
Arc of 3 Napa projects
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A 7th generation shipper and 2nd generation winegrower, Basile Aloy of Avignonesi in Tuscany, has a unique perspective on the geopolitical and macroeconomic events happening today and how they impact the cost of wine. Oil prices, war, tariffs, and climate change all come into play in this wide ranging conversation that showcases how much some of these macro events impact the world of wine.
Detailed Show Notes:
Basile’s background: Chairman of Avignonesi, wine distribution in Italy & US, 7th generation shipping family, CEO of shipping businesses EBE & Victrix, studied winemaking in Bordeaux
Runs a fleet of dry bulk carriers in shipping, does not ship wine
Iran war has increased the cost of cargo, a 40 ft container for wine went from $1,600 to $2,700 (~70% increase), however, per bottle (~18k bottles/container) that goes from $0.09 to $0.15/bottle (not a huge impact)
Domesticating production can be challenging, but it is happening in some places, both Canada and China are leaning in; Avignonesi saw China as a big growth market, but has fallen dramatically, partially due to high quality wines made in China
Both shipping and wine are very capital intensive, but ships can be purchased on the secondary market, where prices swing dramatically (from $25M to $75M in 5 years); wine cycles are much longer, which can create longer downturns like we’re experiencing today
Avignonesi overview
Shipping can be more sustainable than trucking wine; glass weight of wine has a huge impact on sustainability (~750g of wine in a bottle vs ~400-800g of glass; Avignonesi chose light weight bottles)
Europe is like Disneyland, “growers of memories,” which builds a connection to their wines, particularly the premium wines
The future of Avignonesi: starting a re-branding exercise, planted a “3rd millennium” vineyard to address viticulture issues with climate change (1st harvest 2027)
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Though the seeds were already sown for quality wines in California, the famous Judgement of Paris Tasting in 1976 set the wine world ablaze and created new energy not just in America, but across the world for fine wine production and appreciation. Andrea Robinson MS has developed The Swirled Cup, a TV series that explores how the world changed with the Judgement of Paris as its “tipping point.” She covers areas such as winemaking, hospitality, and wine culture in the evolution of the wine market.
Detailed Show Notes:
Andrea’s background: investment banker turned Master Sommelier, Wine Director at Windows of the World in NYC, writing, TV Shows (Quench - Food Network, Pairings w/ Andrea & Simply Wine - Fine Living Network)
The Swirled Cup, a location based, documentary series
Major themes coming out of The Swirled Cup include,
Prohibition kept reputation of CA wine in “suspended animation,” took away the economic incentive to invest in production
“Mount Crushmore” of American Wine: André Tchelistcheff, Robert Mondavi, Steven Spurrier, Patricia Gallagher
Wine culture has evolved with more competition (e.g. - cannabis, alternatives)
Replicating Judgement of Paris today still viable as comparing wines to benchmarks has value, with democratized media, expanding to collectors are well as trade could be useful; trade and media tend to like more restrained styles vs collectors
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As the birthplace of wine and the vinifera grape species, Georgia (the country), has wine deeply embedded in its culture. Yet, having survived conquest by three empires, fine wines are not the current norm in Georgia, where the Russian Communists focused on quantity over quality. Irakli Gilauri is launching Gilauri Wines to change that and to give wine collectors all over the world a chance to taste and connect with the best of the Ancient Terroir that is his home country of Georgia.
Detailed Show Notes:
Irakli’s background: public company CEO (Bank of Georgia, Georgia Capital), wine collector for 20 years, took UC Davis winemaking courses
Mission: to make a fine wine from Georgia that showcases the original terroir of wine
Georgia (the country) wine history
The “oldest wine cellar in the world”
Gilauri Wines
DTC focused brand; in order to share with fellow wine lovers, not enough for retail
Wine, food, & travel go together
Expected pricing: <$200 for the Saperavi, <$100 for the Chardonnay; want more people to taste the wines over time
Wine and public companies have similar business models, both require roadshows to sell wine or the stock; have brokers or distributors to market to investors or accounts; and you have analysts or critics who rate the company/product
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With 143 years of history, Wente Family Vineyards is the US’s longest continuously family owned and operated winery, even producing wine through Prohibition. Aly Wente, Chief Revenue Officer, discusses how Wente leverages its rich history to re-launch historic brands, connect with younger consumers, and embed the messaging in social media and hospitality to differentiate itself.
Detailed Show Notes:
Aly’s background covered in prior episodes, but she is now in charge of all revenue vs marketing and hospitality previously
Wente Family Vineyards is the longest continuously family owned and operated winery in the US
Wente acts as a historian of CA wine, e.g. - its SB is named Louis Mel after one of the original farmers of SB in CA
The re-launched Cresta Blanca brand has deep ties to history
Changed branding from Wente Vineyards to Wente Family Vineyards to highlight the family element, with 5 generations of knowledge passed down from one generation to the next
Younger consumers don’t always start with history, but they are eager to learn
Organic social media is the #1 priority, Wente has undergone a big evolution with social
Using history in hospitality - always testing and learning
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Sometimes data can be overwhelming. Being able to transform that data into actionable information can deliver high ROI. Jesse Lange, Managing Director of Lange Estate Winery, and Mark Evans, President of Triumph Advisors, discuss how Enolytics helps them make strategic decisions through actionable information in every part of their businesses, from DTC and wholesale into operational planning. Thanks to Enolytics for sponsoring this episode.
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It appears on some wine labels, winemakers speak lovingly about them, and there are organizations focused on them. “Old Vines” is a loosely defined term that is often associated with quality in the wine industry. Seghesio, a historic Californian winery, has a strong focus on old vines with its focus on Zinfandel and Italian varietals. Andy Robinson, Seghesio’s winemaker, lays out the economics of growing and selling old vine wines.
Detailed Show Notes:
Andy’s background: grew up in the Finger Lakes (NY), studied Chemistry, worked at Charles Krug
Seghesio overview
Defines old vines as 50+ years vs Old Vine Conference defines as 35+ years, conventional vineyards normally have 20-25 year lifespan
Benefits of old vines
Costs of old vines
Need to have a focus for old vines to be successful, which is why there are many single vineyard old vines; consistent ownership important for this
People are often willing to pay more for old vine wines, wine needs to be good
For deciding when to replant old vines: wines not fantastic anymore, yields drop <1 ton/acre, people not willing to pay enough to keep it
More diversity of varietals coming with old vines as late ‘70s plantings hit 50 years, historically mostly Zinfandel
Old vine organizations
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When Shekar Sathyanarayana, founder of Nalla, began visiting wineries in Santa Barbara and talked about Indian food, winemakers loved the food, but had never paired it with wine. Now, Nalla has brought Indian food and wine pairing to over 100 events hosted at wineries and other venues and Shekar shares what he has learned about match Indian food and wine.
Detailed Show Notes:
Shekar’s background: 1st generation South Indian, grew up in Kansas, was a talent agent and lawyer
Nalla founding
Nalla experiences, officially launched 2023
Indian wine
4 components to “spicy” food
Indian food & wine pairing - match aromatics w/ wine, heat comes second
Regional Indian cuisine - 28 states in India, each region has its own cuisine
Top 5 Indian dish pairings
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After retiring twice, Chris Baker, President of Brassfield Estate, was lured back in by a unique opportunity to build one of the world’s largest monopoles in the High Valley AVA of Lake County, California. Its unique volcanic terroir is now being scaled nationally with a 10 year contract and national alignment with Southern Glazers. Chris describes the best practices in working with distributors and partnering together to create a successful brand, built on trusted relationships.
Detailed Show Notes:
Chris’ background: hospitality, distribution, ran wineries, has tried to retire twice and come back due to his love of wine
Brassfield overview
Retail price points - $16-17 whites, $25-30 reds
Sales team being built out
Small, medium wineries need to do more DTC, social media in new distribution environment
Need to identify brand’s uniqueness
Distributors and accounts want to know what brand will do to create pull
Focus on top moving accounts: top 250 restaurants, top retailers, share accounts b/w distributor and winery, need to understand what brands are important for the distributors (to not cannibalize sales)
“We’re in the relationship business”
National account restaurants - often have 3rd party agencies (e.g. - Patrick Henry, IMI) to work through, hard to get direct contact, can meet some people at Vibe conference, trade conferences, Aspen Food & Wine
Need to learn about customers and get to know each other
Best practice: being present, everyone is trying to get mindshare of distributors, can’t only go once every 6 months, need frequent communications, involvement, and call on accounts direct w/ or w/o distributor
Distributors have big notebooks of incentives (some suppliers have big ones), they cherry pick what they think will be easiest to accomplish
The top down approach can work, if distributor leads push down priorities to team
Creating consumer awareness (marketing, social, PR) can get attention w/o incentive programs, Brassfield hired a PR agency in NY and a marketing company in Napa
Biggest success stories:
Annual Volcano Camp (started 2025)
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As one of the winners of the infamous 1976 Judgement of Paris, Chateau Montelena has a rich history to be proud of. To optimize that legacy, Montelena’s President and Winemaker Matt Crafton has been embarking on more of a luxury strategy for the brand, reducing grocery and chain presence and working towards pricing growth over volume. With the 50th anniversary of the Judgement in Paris and the wine market in extreme flux, Montelena is doubling down on the values that made it victorious.
Detailed Show Notes:
Matt’s background: wine production for 23 years, Economics degree, started at Montelena in 2008
Chateau Montelena overview
A full-time sales team not viable, so moved to partnership with Wilson Daniels as national sales agent beginning Jan 2026
Found retail accounts not holding price which would make restaurants and DTC members not buy the wines
Judgement of Paris story usage
Wine critic influence has waned over last 15-20 years, but scores still have a big impact to certain types of buyers
Important to understand the ripple effects of wholesale decisions
Tools to navigate wholesale - pricing, mapping market allocations to market potential
Managing distributors - need to build direct relationships, get people out to the winery to see and feel the brand
Relationships critical to navigating a challenging wine market
Goal is to grow through price, not volume
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