In this episode, Jim and Trisha welcome Dr. R. Robert Creech to the podcast to discuss family systems and his newest book "Family Systems and Congregational Life."

Links:

• Robert's Bio
• Family Systems and Congregational Life
• The book we wrote with Robert
• Ethics for Christian Ministry: Moral Formation for Twenty-First-Century Leaders by Robert Creech & Joel Trull
• The Cornerstone Concept (Extraordinary Leadership Seminar Trilogy Book 3): A book that Robert has a chapter in--it's a great resource for leaders and also has his chapter on Jesus and Differentiation of self
• Bowen Center

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