Steve Hayes, Sarah Isgur, David French, and Jonah Goldberg break down what counts as an “insurrection” after the L.A. riots—and why the chaos might be hurting Trump in the optics war.

The Agenda:
—Unrest in Los Angeles
—In defense of norms
—What is an insurrection?
—Polling on Los Angeles unrest
—"Worse the better"
—Tulsi Gabbard's strange nuke video
—SANE / FREEZE part two
—NWYT: Child rot summer

Show Notes:
—Jonah Goldberg on Trump and carnage

—Weekly Standard piece on immigration

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