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In this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss fear, the difference between pain vs. suffering, and the value of struggle in life. They cover the following topics:
(1:02) Steve recounts his recent experience with fear on a mountaineering trip
(9:30) Steve tells the story of navigating a frightening cannabis experience
(12:45) Fear is a warning signal. What we resist persists. The only way out is through.
(15:45) Awareness and mindfulness allows us to navigate difficult emotions
(17:05) Coping with fear using mindfulness is a skill that can be developed using deliberate practice
(22:00) Using mindfulness to develop emotional resilience (e.g., "progressive overload")
(24:04) The Tools, by Phil Stutz
(26:00) Take the Stairs, by Rory Vaden and "do it scared". The "equation" for burnout
(27:55) Discipline Equals Freedom, by Joko Willink
(29:29) Embrace emotions and take inspired action with compassion
(31:20) How therapists/guides can help people through difficult psychedelic experiences
(33:44) Existential fears and how we cope with them
(40:38) Looking at sad things through loving eyes
(41:30) Pain vs Suffering
(45:00) Psychedelics can offer a therapeutic "death" experience
(47:15) Reid talks about his encounter with death during an ayahuasca ceremony
(49:30) Perspective and awareness can have a calming effect
Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/
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In this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss fear, the difference between pain vs. suffering, and the value of struggle in life. They cover the following topics:
(1:02) Steve recounts his recent experience with fear on a mountaineering trip
(9:30) Steve tells the story of navigating a frightening cannabis experience
(12:45) Fear is a warning signal. What we resist persists. The only way out is through.
(15:45) Awareness and mindfulness allows us to navigate difficult emotions
(17:05) Coping with fear using mindfulness is a skill that can be developed using deliberate practice
(22:00) Using mindfulness to develop emotional resilience (e.g., "progressive overload")
(24:04) The Tools, by Phil Stutz
(26:00) Take the Stairs, by Rory Vaden and "do it scared". The "equation" for burnout
(27:55) Discipline Equals Freedom, by Joko Willink
(29:29) Embrace emotions and take inspired action with compassion
(31:20) How therapists/guides can help people through difficult psychedelic experiences
(33:44) Existential fears and how we cope with them
(40:38) Looking at sad things through loving eyes
(41:30) Pain vs Suffering
(45:00) Psychedelics can offer a therapeutic "death" experience
(47:15) Reid talks about his encounter with death during an ayahuasca ceremony
(49:30) Perspective and awareness can have a calming effect
Learn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/
Learn more about Novamind at https://www.novamind.ca/
Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/
Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/
Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/research
Learn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/
Email us at [email protected]
Follow us on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/
https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/
https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

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