We continue our dive into each of the types and their relationships with their Heart Center, spending most of our time on 9s, 2s, 6s, and 1s.

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In this episode, Jeff Cook sits down with Danielle Fuller (Scientific Enneagram) for a deep conversation on Dr. Daniel Siegel’s Personality and Wholeness in Therapy—the book many are calling the most important scientific contribution to Enneagram theory in years. Together they unpack the book’s core framework around agency, bonding, certainty, emotional regulation, and developmental pathways while wrestling with both its strengths and frustrations.

Jeff and Danielle explore where Siegel’s work reframes the Enneagram for therapists and skeptics, where the language becomes overly dense, and how neuroscience, polyvagal theory, and personality theory intersect with classic Enneagram ideas. Along the way, they debate whether the book advances the conversation, complicates it unnecessarily, or both at the same time.

This is a theory-heavy discussion for serious students of the Enneagram, psychology, and human development.

In this episode of Rewired, Jeff Cook and Katie Whitlock explore the shared space between neighboring Enneagram types through the lens of wings, relationships, posture, and emotional overlap.

Rather than treating wings as a way to narrow identity, they ask a different question: what do adjacent types share?

The conversation begins with Ones and Twos, unpacking themes like sacrifice, servant-heartedness, grief, judgment, and the pressure to care for the world around them. From there, they move into the shared emotional world of Twos and Threes, exploring image crafting, externalized shame, relational performance, and the difficulty of truly seeing oneself.

Along the way, Jeff and Katie discuss:

• Why wings may be “high level” Enneagram work
• The difference between sharing a center and sharing a stance
• Why neighboring types often mistype as one another
• The role gender can play in how types express sacrifice and care
• How Twos and Threes use other people as mirrors
• Why some types struggle to do deep Enneagram work despite loving the system
• The tension between authentic connection and adaptive performance

This episode opens a new direction for Rewired — less focused on categorizing people and more interested in the spaces between them.

These podcasts are getting bigger and bigger! Today I welcome TWO sisters and their mom to talk about more mother-daughter relationship dynamics. We chat about the similarities between 2s and 9s, and what it's like to give your children space to grow and be themselves.

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From our Movie Typing podcast , this is the full 4 episode discussion of Enneagram eights, heroism, politics, and the movement into villainy with our friend Steve Morris.

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My extended family gets featured this week! I am joined by my cousin and my aunt to talk about the dynamics between a 7 mother & a 1 daughter. Their family also includes three younger siblings (triplets!) so we get to talk about sibling dynamics and how a 1 survives being the oldest sister.

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A conversation about the body center, instinct, anger, boundaries, and what it means to be present. In this episode of the Morning Show, Jeff, Kristin, Jackie, and TJ explore how each Enneagram center experiences the world through the body—whether through instinct, physicality, control, fear, affection, movement, autonomy, or anger.

The discussion moves from tattoos and touch to chronic pain, flow states, repression, emotional regulation, and the complicated relationship each type has with anger and physical presence.

Along the way, the group wrestles with questions like: What is healthy anger? What does it mean to trust your body? Why do some people move toward intensity while others avoid it? And how do we stop overthinking long enough to actually inhabit our lives?

In this final session of the series, Jeff and Katie wrap up their exploration of the shadow work of the Enneagram by focusing on Type Six and Type Seven.

We unpack the fear, holy ideas and heart’s messages connected to each type, and ask what actually helps move people toward courage, temperance, and greater wholeness.

The discussion moves beyond stereotypes and into the lived experience of Sixes and Sevens — how Sixes seek certainty and support, how Sevens navigate fear of deprivation and being trapped, and how both types wrestle with trust, vulnerability, and control.

This is our final post on Processing Center and Jeff gets to interview Katie Whitlock (3), Kristin Messegee (6), and TJ WIlson (9) about how their types move around the circle.