In this holiday re-broadcast of an episode from April 23, 2020, acclaimed poet Danez Smith discusses the role friendship plays in their most recent collection of poetry, Homie. Smith talks to Fiction/Non/Fiction podcast co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell about the isolating effect COVID-19 has had on black communities, using space on the page inventively, and writing about money. This episode is presented in conjunction with the Loft Literary Center’s literary festival, Wordplay, which in 2020 was a virtual event.

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Guests:

●     Danez Smith

Selected

readings for the episode:

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Danez Smith

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Homie

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Don’t Call Us Dead

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TwoPoems

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what was said on the bus stop: a new poem by Danez Smith

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my president

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VS podcast, from the Poetry Foundation, hosted by Danez Smith and Franny Choi

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Others

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Corona Correspondences: #28 by Danielle Evans (The Sewanee Review)

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Review: ‘Homie,’ a Book of Poems That Produces Shocking New Vibrations by Pahrul

Sehgal

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Frank O’Hara

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As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner

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Angel Nafis

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Hieu Minh Nguyen

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Douglas Kearney

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1977:

Poem for Mrs. Fannie Lou Hamer by June Jordan

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Recordings of June Jordan from the Radcliffe

Institute for Advanced Study, Harvard University Digitized recordings and more

digitized recordings

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‘Feet’ and ‘Spoon’ from Catalog

of Unabashed Gratitude by Ross Gay

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Mirrors: Stories of

Almost Everyone by Eduardo Galeano

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Novelist and critic Lydia Kiesling joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss the creation and the spirit of year-end book lists. She talks about list culture getting its start at the small, online literary magazine, The Millions, and its eventual spread to seemingly every media outlet. The three grapple with the significance of inclusion on these lists, whether they really sell more books, and the ethics of their construction. Kiesling reads from her new novel, Mobility.

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Lydia Kiesling:

The Golden State

Mobility

Others:

Books We Love | NPR

A Year in Reading: 2023 | The Millions

100 Notable Books of 2023 | New York Times

​​The 10 Best Books Through Time | New York Times

A Year in Reading: 2023 | The Millions

“Crime,” by Marilyn Stasio, August 19, 2001| New York Times 

“‘Terrorist’ – to Whom? V.V. Ganeshananthan’s novel ‘Brotherless Night’ reveals the moral nuances of violence, ever belied by black-an-white terminology” by Omar El Akkad, Jan. 1, 2023 | New York Times

Molly Stern

The Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Bridget Jones’s Diary by Helen Fielding

The Omnivore's Dilemma by Michael Pollan

Blink by Malcolm Gladwell

The Collected Stories of F. Scott Fitzgerald 

The Stand by Stephen King

A Thousand Acres by Jane Smiley 

The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver 

Lonesome Dove by Larry McMurtry

The Joy Luck Club by Amy Tan

Anna Karenina by Leo Tolstoy

Ali & Nino by Kurban Said

The Scarlet Letter by Nathaniel Hawthorne

Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad

Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe

The Sun Also Rises by Ernest Hemingway

1984 by George Orwell

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Pulitzer-Prize winning writer Tracy K. Smith joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss the difference between being “free” and being “freed.” She suggests that citizens of the United States fall into one category or the other. The first appear to have descended from those who were always free. The second descend from those who were acted upon by those in the first category. Smith talks about the research she’s done to understand the roles her forefathers played in this country’s armed conflicts and the connections between the military and our historical understanding of freedom. She reads from her new collection of essays, To Free the Captives.

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Tracy K. Smith

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Poet Taylor Byas joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss writing about Chicago, which she does in her Maya Angelou Book Award-winning collection of poetry, I Done Clicked My Heels Three Times. She talks about growing up in the country’s most segregated city, and considers its long traditions of Black, working-class, and ethnic literature, including writers like Nate Marshall, Lorraine Hansberry, Patricia Smith, and Jose Olivarez. She explains how moving away has given her a new perspective on Chicago’s politics, history, crime, and beauty. She reads a poem (“You from “Chiraq”?”) addressing how outsiders view the city, as well as from a crown of sonnets about the South Side.

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Taylor Byas

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Novelist Timothy Schaffert joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss how the concept of farce relates to today’s GOP-controlled House of Representatives. Schaffert describes the lack of self-awareness in both fictional and real-life characters, including politicians like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz, and analyzes how it renders them comical, absurd, and maddening to watch. He talks about what observers can learn from those behaviors, and also reads from his forthcoming book, The Titanic Survivors Book Club. 

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Timothy Schaffert

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On Thanksgiving, the show returns to an episode with playwright Rhiana Yazzie and novelist Brandon Hobson, who joined hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell in February 2019 to discuss Native literature. These interviews were recorded in the wake of viral images showing Covington Catholic students disrespecting Native activist Nathan Phillips in Washington, D.C. The episode turns the focus away from the MAGA hats and back to the Indigenous Peoples March and Indigenous writing.

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Rhiana Yazzie

●    Nancy

●    Ady

●    Queen Cleopatre and Princess Pocahontas

●    New Native Theatre

Brandon Hobson

●    Deep Ellum

●    Desolation of Avenues Untold

●    Where the Dead Sit Talking

●    The Removed

●    The Storyteller

Others:

●    Mekko and Barking Water by Sterlin Harjo

●    Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grann

●    Stewart O’Nan

●    Louise Erdrich

●    “The Indigenous Peoples March was about a Lot More than the Kids in MAGA Hats,” by Tekendra Parmar | Washington Post

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Writer and editor Zeke Caligiuri joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss American Precariat: Parables of Exclusion, a new collection of essays on class he co-edited along with eleven other incarcerated writers. The volume’s contributors include Eula Biss, Kao Kalia Yang, Lacy M. Johnson, Valeria Luisielli, Kiese Laymon, and many others. Caligiuri, who worked on the book while in Minnesota correctional facilities and is now free, discusses the challenges of creativity and the literary life in prison settings, as well as how the book came to be. He also reflects on the idea that “the history of class hasn't always been written by the powerful, but they have always been its editors,” as he writes in a foreword, which he reads from during the episode.

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Zeke Caligiuri

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Fiction writer Lesley Nneka Arimah joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss how Black horror writing speaks to our current cultural moment. She talks about editor/director Jordan Peele’s new anthology, Out There Screaming: An Anthology of New Black Horror, in which her work is included, and how she went from avoiding horror to writing it. Arimah reads from her story “Invasion of the Baby Snatchers,” explains its origins in her own fears, and shares an alternative ending.

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Lesley Nneka Arimah

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In the wake of the recent violence in Palestine and Israel, the show returns to an interview taped in June 2021 with scholars Shir Alon and Joseph Farag, who join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to discuss how Palestinian and Israeli writers have written about the occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. Farag talks about the evolution of the portrayal of the Palestinian self in literature throughout history, as well as some of the themes and writers discussed in his book, Palestinian Literature in Exile: Gender, Aesthetics and Resistance in the Short Story. Alon explains how the unprocessed trauma of the history of massacre and expulsion of Palestinians seems to stage an appearance in Israeli literature every decade. She also talks about Dolly City by Orly Castel-Bloom, Minor Detail by Adania Shibli, and Funeral at Noon by Yeshayahu Koren.

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Shir Alon

Joseph Farag

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Novelist Jonathan Lethem joins host Whitney Terrell live at the Cider Gallery in Lawrence, Kansas. Lethem discusses his new book, Brooklyn Crime Novel, which is set in the neighborhood where he grew up—and where he also set his 2003 novel Fortress of Solitude. They discuss terms like blockbusting and redlining, and the ways that Lethem’s writing explores the ramifications of real estate manipulation on residents of these cities and others around the nation. Lethem reads from Brooklyn Crime Novel and talks about the book’s inventive approach to time.

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Jonathan Lethem 

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