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  • S8 Ep. 23: Karen Weingarten/Abortion Stories Before Roe v. Wade

    Professor Karen Weingarten joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about a new anthology she has edited, Abortion Stories: American Literature Before Roe v. Wade. Weingarten reflects on the complicated history of abortion, the varied use of abortifacients, abortion’s ties to eugenics and state control of bodies, and the rise of the anti-abortion movement. She discusses how access to abortion facilitates other kinds of resistance, and explains how the book came to include authors like Maria Sybilla Merian, Langston Hughes, Dorothy Parker, Lucille Clifton, and Eugene O’Neill alongside oral histories from formerly enslaved persons and groundbreaking politicians like Shirley Chisholm. She talks about the stories she hopes to see represented in post-Dobbs writing and reads from her foreword to the anthology.


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    This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.


    Selected Readings:


    Karen Weingarten

    • Abortion Stories: American Literature Before Roe v. Wade
    • Pregnancy Test
    • Abortion in the American Imagination: Before Life and Choice, 1880-1940

    • Others

      • Dirty Dancing
      • Fast Times at Ridgemont High
      • The Cider House Rules
      • The Mothers
      • The Art of Subtext
      • Jessica Valenti
      • Abortion: Our Bodies, Their Lies, and the Truths We Use to Win
      • Peyton Place
      • Men Without Women by Ernest Hemingway (which includes “Hills Like White Elephants”

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        44 min
      • S8 Ep. 22: Novelists Suzette Mayr and Kai Thomas on Canada Versus Trump

        Canadian authors Suzette Mayr and Kai Thomas join co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the repercussions of President Trump’s recent threats to annex and tax Canada. They talk about the possible empowerment of the Canadian right as a result of Trump’s extreme remarks, as well as measures their communities are taking to unify in the current political environment. Mayr and Thomas read from their recent novels, The Sleeping Car Porter and In the Upper Country. 


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        This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.


        Selected Readings:


        Suzette Mayr

        • The Sleeping Car Porter 
        • Dr. Edith Vane and the Hares of Crawley Hall
        • Monoceros
        • Venous Hum
        • The Windows
        • Moon Honey 

        • Kai Thomas

          • In the Upper Country


          Others:

          • 2025 4 Nations Face Off | NHL.com | NHL
          • Justin Trudeau's speech in response to Trump's tariffs | CBC News
          • The Last Black Town in the West |The Daily Yonder
          • Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters  | Library of Congress
          • There's only one winner in a trade war... | This Hour Has 22 Minutes (YouTube)

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            46 min
          • S8 Ep. 21: Nicholas Fandos on New York Politics, Eric Adams, and Trump

            New York Times reporter Nicholas Fandos, author of a recent article titled “An Emboldened Trump Seeks to Bend New York City to His Will,” joins co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about why President Trump wants to dismiss corruption charges against New York City Mayor Eric Adams. Officials in Trump’s Department of Justice say they want Adams to be free to aid Trump’s immigration crackdown in the Big Apple, which since 2014 has been a sanctuary city. But conservative federal prosecutors like Danielle Sassoon and Hagen Scotten say this amounts to a quid pro quo and have resigned rather than drop the case against Adams. Fandos reflects on what might happen next and the larger implications for the Department of Justice.


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            This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.


            Selected Readings:


            Nicholas Fandos

            • An Emboldened Trump Seeks to Bend New York City to His Will 
            • Eric Adams Discussed Possible Republican Primary Run with G.O.P. Leader 
            • Jeffries Works With N.Y. Democrats to Weaken G.O.P. Control of the House

            • Others:

              • Who Is Danielle Sassoon, the Prosecutor Who Quit Over Eric Adams’s Corruption Case? | New York Times 
              • Danielle Sassoon’s Letter to Attorney General Pam Bondi, Annotated | New York Times 
              • Here Are the Charges Eric Adams Faces, Annotated | New York Times | September 26, 2024
              • Read the Resignation Letter From Hagan Scotten | New York Times 
              • Read The Letter From Emil Bove Accepting Danielle Sassoon’s Resignation, Annotated | New York Times

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                42 min
              • S8 Ep. 20: Journalists Michael Scherer and Ashley Parker on Trump and his Tech Oligarchs.

                New Atlantic staff writers Ashley Parker and Michael Scherer, authors of a recent article called “The Tech Oligarchy Arrives,” join host Whitney Terrell to talk about tech oligarchs’ influence over President Trump’s administration. They discuss the significance of prominent billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg and Jeff Bezos attending Trump’s inauguration as visible supporters, how these tech leaders have changed their opinion of Trump over time, and the regulatory and legal benefits they may gain from their close association with the new administration. They also discuss Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency and the fallout from that group’s efforts to access Treasury data and dismantle USAID.


                To hear the full episode, subscribe through iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app (include the forward slashes when searching). You can also listen by streaming from the player below. Check out video versions of our interviews on the Fiction/Non/Fiction Instagram account, the Fiction/Non/Fiction YouTube Channel, and our show website: https://www.fnfpodcast.net/.


                This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.


                Selected Readings:


                Ashley Parker & Michael Scherer


                • The Tech Oligarchy Arrives |The Atlantic |January 20, 2025
                • Trump Advisers Stopped Musk From Hiring a Noncitizen at DOGE |The Atlantic |February 4, 2025
                • Trump Takes Over the Kennedy Center |The Atlantic | February 7, 2025
                • Trump’s Conquest of the Kennedy Center Is Accelerating |The Atlantic | February 8, 2025


                  Ashley Parker

                  The Memo That Shocked the White House |The Atlantic | January 29, 2025


                  Michael Scherer

                  Why Meta Is Paying $25 Million to Settle a Trump Lawsuit |The Atlantic | January 29, 2025


                  Others:

                  • DOGE task force gains access to U.S. Treasury Department data, payment systems |CBS News |February 3, 2025
                  • Doge v USAid: how Elon Musk helped his acolytes infiltrate world’s biggest aid agency |The Guardian |February 5, 2025
                  • Ending Illegal Discrimination And Restoring Merit-Based Opportunity – The White House |The White House |January 21, 2025
                  • Meta Goes Full MAGA as it Kills Off DEI Programs |Daily Beast|January 10, 2025
                  • The Tech Oligarchy Arrives |The Atlantic |January 20, 2025
                  • Trump, a populist president, is flanked by tech billionaires at his inauguration | AP News | January 20, 2025
                  • Zuckerberg Turns Facebook Full MAGA and Smears California Staff
                  • |Yahoo! News |January 7, 2025

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                    42 min
                  • S8 Ep. 19: Thomas Dai on Mapping, Naming, Borders, and Immigration

                    Essayist Thomas Dai joins co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss his new collection, Take My Name But Say It Slow, in which he writes about place and identity. Dai talks about the imperialist impulse behind Trump’s attempt to turn the Gulf of Mexico into the “Gulf of America,” the power of naming, and the appeal and uncertainty of mapping. He also reflects on the surprising history of border policing, queer cartographies, and the sometimes paradoxical relationship between inner self and physical space. Dai reads from Take My Name But Say It Slow.

                      

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                    This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.


                    Selected Readings:


                    Thomas Dai

                    • Take My Name But Say It Slow


                    Others

                    • National Archives, The Chinese Exclusion Act 
                    • “Queering the Map”
                    • Thomas Pynchon, Mason & Dixon
                    • Peter Ho Davies, The Fortunes
                    • “Think There’s Nothing You Can Do to Stop ICE? Think Again.” | The Nation

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                      43 min
                    • S8 Ep. 18: Lan Samantha Chang on the Risks and Rewards of Literary Personas

                      Acclaimed novelist and Director of the Iowa Writers’ Workshop Lan Samantha Chang joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the role that literary personas may–or may not–have played in recent revelations about Alice Munro, Neil Gaiman, and Cormac McCarthy. Chang discusses how writers often develop literary personas as their public profiles grow. Chang also discusses how personas can be both protective and damaging when they no longer align with the writer's true self, the impact of personas on writers' privacy and the industry's role in shaping and maintaining these personas. She reads from her novel All is Forgotten, Nothing is Lost.


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                      This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.


                      Selected Readings:

                      Lan Samantha Chang

                      • The Family Chao
                      • Hunger
                      • Inheritance
                      • All is Forgotten, Nothing is Lost 
                      • Writers, Protect Your Inner Life |Lit Hub|August 7, 2017


                        Others:

                        • A Moveable Feast, Ernest Hemingway
                        • Erasure, Percival Everett
                        • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6 Episode 40: “In Memory of Cormac McCarthy: Oscar Villalon on an Iconic Writer’s Life, Work, and Legacy”
                        • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 7 Episode 19: “Jacinda Townsend and James Bernard Short on American Fiction” 
                        • James Alan McPherson
                        • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 7 Episode 35: “Jonny Diamond on His Mother and Alice Munro” 
                        • The Dark Secrets Behind the Neil Gaiman Abuse Accusations|Vulture | January 13, 2025

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                          46 min
                        • S8 Ep. 17: Sarah S. Grossman on the Los Angeles Wildfires

                          Novelist and former Huffington Post climate reporter Sarah S. Grossman joins Fiction/Non/Fiction co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to talk about the Los Angeles wildfires. Grossman, who lives in Los Angeles and whose 2024 novel A Fire So Wild centers on a wildfire in Northern California, discusses how communities are coming together to support each other in the wake of the devastation. She reflects on the damage to the historically Black neighborhood of Altadena; the fact that people are differently affected by climate change, even as wealth cannot completely shield anyone; the factors that contributed to the wildfires; and what it is like to prepare to evacuate, or, alternatively, to offer shelter to others. Grossman reads from A Fire So Wild.

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                          This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.


                          Selected Readings:


                          Sarah S. Grossman

                          • A Fire So Wild
                          • The Antidote To Climate Dread | HuffPost Impact | The Huffington Post | Aug 25, 2021
                          • More Americans Than Ever Understand Climate Change Is Real And Harmful | HuffPost Impact | The Huffington Post | Nov 18, 2021
                          • Nearly 30% Of Americans Aren't Worried 'At All' About The Deadly Climate Crisis | The Huffington Post | April 19, 2022


                            Others:

                            • What happened on Friday, Jan. 17 Crews improved containment of the fires; some residents allowed to return | Los Angeles Times
                            • L.A. fires upend hard-won stability for the area’s homeless population | The Washington Post
                            • Mutual Aid LA Network (@mutualaidla) • Instagram
                            • Displaced Black Families GoFundMe Directory
                            • Safe Place for Youth 
                            • How Wildfires Came for City Streets | The New York Times
                            • Over 170,000 People Under Evacuation In LA County Wildfires | Inkl

                              New wildfire concerns in Los Angeles: Strong winds could return next week. | USA Today

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                              42 min
                            • S8 Ep. 16: Charles Baxter on the Dangers of Knowing the Future

                              Acclaimed novelist Charles Baxter joins Fiction/Non/Fiction hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss his recent novel Blood Test: A Comedy. Baxter talks about turning to humor in dark times, the burden of expectations, and writing a protagonist, Brock Hobson, who some readers love and others detest. He discusses how seeing websites and ads that predicted his likes and dislikes led to him inventing a fictional company, Geronomics, which predicts a certain future for Brock and is invested in that scenario playing out one way or another. Baxter also analyzes the craft of writing an antagonist who is a Trumper, but who is never explicitly identified as such. He reads from Blood Test.


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                              This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.


                              Selected Readings:


                              Charles Baxter

                              • Blood Test: A Comedy
                              • Wonderlands: Essays on the Life of Literature
                              • Gryphon
                              • Burning Down the House: Essays on Fiction
                              • There’s Something I Want You to Do
                              • The Art of Subtext: Beyond Plot
                              • Shadow Play

                              • Others:

                                • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 5 Episode 33: "The Politics of Craft: Charles Baxter on How His Essays on Writing Respond to a Changing World"
                                • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 4 Episode 6: "Hope on the Horizon: Charles Baxter and Mike Alberti on Despair and Renewal in Fiction"
                                • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1 Episode 4: "We're All Russian, Now"
                                • Humboldt's Gift by Saul Bellows
                                • Oedipus Rex by Sophocles
                                • Macbeth by Shakespeare
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                                  48 min
                                • S8 Ep. 15: Ream Shukairy on Syria After Assad

                                  Following the ouster of former Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, novelist Ream Shukairy joins Fiction/Non/Fiction co-hosts V.V. Ganeshananthan and Whitney Terrell to discuss the country’s future. Shukairy, who grew up in California and spent summers in Syria, reflects on the long history of Syrian resistance to oppression, as well as how parts of her family emigrated. She also talks about how it feels to emerge from a culture of fear and surveillance, what it’s like to revisit what she previously wrote about Assad, and the places she wants to see when she returns to Syria for the first time in years. Shukairy reads from her young adult novel The Next New Syrian Girl.

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                                  This podcast is produced by Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan.


                                  Selected Readings:


                                  Ream Shukairy

                                  • The Next New Syrian Girl
                                  • Six Truths and a Lie

                                  • Others:

                                    • Return to Homs
                                    • For Sama
                                    • The White Helmets (film)
                                    • The White Helmets (organization)
                                    • Last Men in Aleppo
                                    • Cries from Syria
                                    • Still Recording
                                    • The Cave
                                    • Burning Country: Syrians in Revolution and War by Leila Al-Shami and Robin Yassin-Kassab
                                    • Impossible Revolution: Making Sense of the Syrian Tragedy by Yassin al-Haj Saleh
                                    • Assad or We Burn the Country: How One Family’s Lust for Power Destroyed Syria by Sam Dagher 

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                                      38 min
                                    • S8 Ep. 14 REBROADCAST: Jacinda Townsend and James Bernard Short on Percival Everett and American Fiction

                                      Novelist Jacinda Townsend and writer James Bernard Short join co-hosts Whitney Terrell and V.V. Ganeshananthan to talk about the movie American Fiction, which is based on the novel Erasure by Percival Everett. Townsend and Short discuss how the film addresses race in the publishing industry via its central character, Black author Thelonious “Monk” Ellison, who tries to make an ironic point by writing a book exploiting Black stereotypes and finds, to his dismay, that it’s received in earnest and a bestseller. Townsend and Short analyze director Cord Jefferson’s approach and the film’s themes of family dysfunction, freedom in storytelling, and the importance of portraying the complexity of Black lives. 


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                                      This episode of the podcast was produced by Anne Kniggendorf.


                                      Jacinda Townsend

                                      • Mother Country
                                      • Saint Monkey

                                      • James Bernard Short

                                        • “Aqua Boogie” | Blood Orange Review
                                        • “Rootwork” | Blood Orange Review
                                        • “Flash, Back: Langston Hughes’ The Simple Shorts” | SmokeLong Quarterly

                                        • Others:

                                          • American Fiction (movie) | Official Trailer
                                          • Erasure by Percival Everett
                                          • An American Marriage by Tayari Jones
                                          • Harlem Shuffle by Colson Whitehead
                                          • Sag Harbor by Colson Whitehead
                                          • Salvage the Bones by Jesmyn Ward
                                          • The Color Purple by Alice Walker
                                          • Thelonious Monk
                                          • Ralph Ellison
                                          • Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
                                          • “The Little Man at Chehaw Station” by Ralph Ellison | The American Scholar, 1978
                                          • The Tuskegee Institute
                                          • White Negroes by Lauren Michele Jackson
                                          • “The White Negro” by Norman Mailer | Dissent, 1957
                                          • “Dragon Slayers” by Jerald Walker | The Iowa Review, 2006
                                          • “The Hidden Lesson of ‘American Fiction’” by John McWhorter | The New York Times
                                          • Origin (movie) | Official Trailer
                                          • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 1, Episode 11, “Annihilation, Adaptation: What's It Really Like to Have Your Book Made Into a Movie”
                                          • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 2, Episode 11, “Brit Bennett and Emily Halpern on Screenwriting’s Tips for Fiction”
                                          • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6, Episode 33, “The Stakes of the Writers’ Strike: Benjamin Percy on the WGA Walkout, Streaming, and the Survival of Screenwriting”
                                          • Fiction/Non/Fiction Season 6, Episode 38, “Jacinda Townsend on Why Democrats Are Skeptical of President Biden—and How He Can Win Them Back”
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                                            45 min

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