In this episode of Have Kids They Said, Rich and Nicole spiral from summer planning stress to existential dread—with plenty of laughs (and chaos) along the way. Rich delivers heartbreaking news about American cheese that shakes Nicole to her core. They dive into the science behind your morning coffee routine, debate whether Taylor Swift is quietly reshaping male grooming, and ask the big question: are we even doing this parenting thing right?

Throw in some backhanded compliments, an email mishap, and a parenting trick that might actually change your day, and you’ve got another wild ride you won’t want to miss.

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