Finance for Physicians

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  • When to Hire a Financial Planner

    Have you ever worked with a financial planner? Do you have enough money saved for a financial planner to help? When are you ready to hire a financial planner? Depends on the situation or preference. If you want help, the sooner the better.

    In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks to Jeff Wenger, a Certified Financial Planner (CFP®), about when to hire a financial planner. 

    Topics Discussed:
    • Use Cases: When to start working with a financial planner
    • Human Capital Habits: How do you accumulate your wealth? Income
    • Life Transitions: Get finances right in the beginning by planning for the future
    • Finances and Investments: What are your options? Inefficiencies?
    • Backdoor Roth IRA: Involves all different facets of financial planner tasks
    • Reasons to Hire a Financial Planner:
      • Don’t have time to handle your finances.
      • Unsure if things are getting done correctly.
      • Complexity of your finances is intimidating.
      • Struggling to keep finances organized.
      • Ways to Engage a Financial Planner:
        • 95% of the industry has a sales/commission component.
        • Verify terminology given by business to know if it is misleading.
        • Pay for financial planner’s advice.
        • You’re not locked in to work with the same financial planner forever.
        • When to Seek Help from a Financial Planner:
          • Educate yourself to make the best decision.
          • Know the pros and cons of finding a financial planner.
          • Figure out if now is the right time or not.
          • Links:

            Jeff Wenger on LinkedIn

            Wrenne Financial Planning

            Hire or Fire Your Financial Advisor with Dr. Jim Dahle

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            32 min
          • Getting Your PSLF Ducks In A Row

            Are you still curious about student loans? Wondering what you need to prepare and apply for Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF)? It’s not as straightforward as you might think, so get all your ducks in a row.

            In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks to Jeff Wenger, a Certified Financial Planner (CFP®), about starting and progressing through the PSLF process. 

            Topics Discussed:
            • Forbearance: What payment plans count for PSLF, but not COVID or others?
            • 4 Income-driven Repayment Plans:
              • Pay As You Earn (PAYE)
              • Revised Pay As You Earn (REPAYE)
              • Income-Based Repayment (IBR)
              • Income-Contingent Repayment (ICR)
              • 6-Month Grace Period: Default option for most loan types
              • Golden Ticket: After med school graduation, no income equals zero repayment
              • Strategies: Skip grace period - the more low-cost payments made, the better
              • Nonprofits: Verify payments and work for employer with PSLF certification
              • Additional Complications: Fed Loans (PSLF loan servicer) is leaving business
              • Loan Types: Make sure you have direct loans, or consolidate some of them
              • Timing: How to optimize PSLF and when to file tax returns with income evidence
              • Links:

                A Guide to Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF)

                9 Biggest Student Loan Misconceptions

                Should I Drop Out of PSLF

                Avoid Leaving Money on the Table with PSLF

                Why Student Loans are a Great Bet for Many Physicians 

                How to Capitalize on Record Low Student Loan Interest Rates

                Nonprofit and 501(c)(3) Exemption Requirements

                Federal Student Aid

                Jeff Wenger on LinkedIn

                Wrenne Financial Planning

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                22 min
              • What You Need To Know About Estate Planning

                It’s important for everybody to get their estate planning done and done right, especially if they have others who depend on them. Anything you can do ahead of time reduces the pain and pressure of disputes and arguments among loved ones.

                In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks about the basics of estate planning—how it works, what tools to use, and what documents to complete.

                Topics Discussed:
                • 3 Essential Estate Planning Documents:
                  • Financial Power of Attorney: Durable, Springing, and other types
                  • Healthcare Records/Files: Living Will and Healthcare Agent
                  • Last Will and Testament: Designate executor, guardian, and assets
                  • What happens if you don’t have a will? Depends on state laws
                  • Characteristics to Consider: Who to name and why in documents?
                  • Reminder: Not done until documents are signed and notarized
                  • What’s the best option? Do-it-yourself legal documents vs. hiring an attorney
                  • Trust: Legal entity that holds assets and directs proceeds/funds for future use
                  • Links:

                    Estate Planning Organizer

                    Nolo

                    LegalZoom

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                    46 min
                  • Navigating High Inflation Periods

                    Inflation is happening, and there are a lot of different perspectives on it. Most people view it negatively, but it doesn’t have to be that way. It’s not as scary as they make it out to be.

                    In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks about inflation—what it is, the backstory behind it, how it works, what to consider, and how to navigate the changing environment.

                    Topics Discussed:
                    • What is inflation? When prices increase over time
                    • With or Without Inflation: Supply and demand to survive and drive up prices
                    • Government Involvement/Responsibility: Makes money, pricing more complex
                    • How It Works: Stimulus payments save jobs and give people money to spend
                    • Short- vs. Long-term Inflation Spike: Data shows short-term blip will correct itself
                    • Rule of 72: Translate percentage return to time period to when it doubles the cost
                    • How susceptible are you to inflation? Go back to basics and refer to Inflation 101
                    • Physician’s Income: At minimum, compensation needs to keep up with inflation
                    • How susceptible are assets to inflation? Depends on efficiency (i.e. cash, stocks)
                    • Beware: Avoid fear, manipulation, people selling scams due to hyper-inflation
                    • Takeaways: Understand inflation basics - general awareness, keep pace with it
                    • Links:

                      Inflation 101: What You Need to Know About Inflation

                      Consumer Price Index (CTI)

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                      36 min
                    • How To Help Your Children Maximize Their College Education

                      College costs money, and it continues to increase. The actual price that you pay is difficult to understand because it has become progressively more expensive for those that have more financial resources—especially physicians who have or plan to have children in the future.

                      In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks to Joe Messinger about how college costs work and how to start planning sooner than later. Joe is a Certified Financial Planner, CFP®, and Founder of Capstone Wealth Partners and College Aid Pro.

                      Topics Discussed:
                      • Tuition Costs: Different levels for in- versus out-of-state students
                      • 3X or Greater: How college costs have changed in the past 20 years
                      • Why? Supply and demand led to out-of-control costs for college
                      • Inflation: State colleges level off, but private colleges continue to increase costs
                      • Price Transparency: Private colleges equate value to higher or discounted costs
                      • Analogy: College cost is similar to medical bills because it’s different for everybody
                      • College Funding Philosophy: Best way to pay for college is to save for college
                      • 3 Key Financial Aid Components:
                        • Family’s finances
                        • Student’s academics
                        • School’s business model
                        • High-income Hurdle: Family finances impact student’s ability to get financial aid
                        • Sticker Price Shock: Some schools give money for merit, not just for need
                        • Budget: Use school’s money first, then federal aid, and set limitations
                        • Rule of Thumb: Save for one-third, pay for a third, and take out a third in loans
                        • College Aid Pro: Changing the way America shops smart for college
                        • Links:

                          Joe Messinger on LinkedIn

                          Capstone Wealth Partners

                          College Aid Pro

                          Free College Money Report™

                          Can a 529 Plan be Applied to a Student Loan?

                          Free Application for Federal Student Aid (FAFSA®)

                          Net Price Calculator

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                          41 min
                        • Giving Generously As Early Career Physicians

                          Practice what you preach despite all the temptations and pressures of being a physician by shaping your finances around your priorities and values. You can only do three things with your money: Spend it, save it, or give it away—not always in that order.

                          In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks to Matt and Ashley Iles, a married couple who value their faith and giving to others. Both are approaching their three-year mark of being in-practice physicians.

                          Topics Discussed:
                          • Conflicting, Competitive, Charitable Routes: Give 10% of money consistently
                          • Role Models: Fiscal responsibility started with words of wisdom from parents
                          • Spend-Giving: One of the couple’s favorite things to do that involves others
                          • Neighborhoods: It’s not about keeping up, sticking out, or alienating others
                          • Privileged Blessings: Set boundaries, be responsible, hire somebody to save $
                          • Self-Awareness: Know your strengths and weaknesses to resist temptations
                          • Mindshift: Money is not Matt and Ashley’s to keep; share and give it to the Master
                          • Giving Now: Depends on individual situation and if giving is important to them
                          • Future of Giving: As time goes on, not only give more money but time, too
                          • Links:

                            Scarlet Hope

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                            43 min
                          • How Physicians Can Negotiate Better Employment Terms

                            Knowing the right way to negotiate is important in many people’s lives. It’s helpful in employment arrangements/contracts and has many implications, especially financial ramifications. Negotiating is a skill that can make or break your job. Happy physicians deliver better care and better outcomes.

                            In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks to Linda Street, a practicing physician and certified life coach who specializes in helping physicians negotiate better employment terms.

                             Topics Discussed:

                             Financial Ramifications: Learn how to negotiate well or deal with consequences

                            • Mistakes: Not knowing what you should negotiate for to avoid burnout
                            • Fear of Being Greedy: Yet, more money does not always make everything work
                            • You’re Not Alone: Easy to overcome negotiation issues with some guidance
                            • Simply Street MD: Everyone knows a doctor with an enviable contract...be them
                            • What is an enviable employment arrangement/contract? Be your own advocate
                            • Conflict vs. Choices: Anything that’s been negotiated once can be renegotiated
                            • Negotiation Techniques:
                              • Mindset: Advocate for yourself by knowing exactly what you want and do
                              • Market: Know what you should be paid compared with others
                              • Make It Happen: Get a contract that serves your desires and goals
                              • Skills: Physicians negotiate with patients/others every day to reach agreements
                              • Leverage: Maximize perception of loss if you’re not there to get something better
                              • Pre-anticipation: Create responses for all the reasons someone says, ‘no’
                              •  Links:

                                 Simply Street MD

                                Simply Street MD Resources

                                Simply Street MD - Simply Worth It Podcast

                                Linda Street on Facebook

                                Linda Street on LinkedIn

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                                43 min
                              • It’s Ok Not To Be Ok

                                Does the medical profession make you feel like you got to have everything together because everyone around you is perfect? Everything and everyone has flaws, including physicians who are far from perfect but pretend everything is all good all the time.

                                In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks to Christine Runyan, co-founder of Tend Health, which brings a team of clinicians to the intersection of clinical care, health professions, and technology. Christine understands and views clinician well-being through the lens of a psychologist.

                                Topics Discussed:
                                • How perfectionism negatively affects physicians’ mental health
                                • Ways for physicians to address perfectionism proactively
                                • Physicians’ Mental Health: Getting to the point of it’s ok to not be ok
                                • Tend Health: All work done via video telehealth platform and care for physicians
                                • Barriers: Licensing and credentialing process asks about mental health history
                                • Stigma and Culture: Amplifies sense of self-determination to get through anything
                                • Be Human First: Maximize privacy, confidentiality, access to mental health care
                                • Physician Stereotype: Paradox that they need help, but too often suffer in silence
                                • What’s expected? Know the right answer, be curious/authentic, ask questions
                                • Financial Aspects: Average resident/fellow has six-figure student loan balance
                                • Coping Strategies: Self-awareness is super power to being honest with yourself
                                • Links:

                                  Christine Runyan, PhD, ABPP

                                  Christine Runyan’s Email: [email protected]

                                  Tend Health

                                  Accreditation Council for Graduate Medical Education (ACGME)

                                  Truth Be Told by Matthew West

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                                  47 min
                                • Why Atomic Habits Are A Gamechanger

                                  Do shiny objects grab your attention? Do you want to get rich quickly? Lose weight overnight? There are no shortcuts in life. Make tiny changes to achieve remarkable results and outcomes.

                                  Have you read the book, “Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones” by James Clear? In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks about why and how Atomic Habits are a gamechanger.

                                  Topics Discussed:
                                  • Big Points from the Book:
                                    • Bad habits are underlying root cause of results and outcomes
                                    • Good daily habits lead to compounded interest of self-improvement
                                    • Goals vs. Systems: What’s the difference?
                                      • Goals are results and outcomes
                                      • Systems are processes that lead to those results/outcomes
                                      • Changing habits is challenging; breakthrough is the plateau of latent potential
                                      • Identity-based Habit: Focus on the intrinsic motivation of who you wish to become
                                      • Four Laws of Behavior Change:
                                        • Create Good Habit: Make it obvious, attractive, easy, and satisfying
                                        • Break Bad Habit: Make it invisible, unattractive, difficult, and unsatisfying
                                        • Habit Score Card: Brainstorm your existing habits - good and bad
                                        • Examples of Habits:
                                          • Track your finances regularly to know where your money is going
                                          • Stop spending so much money just because you have it
                                          • Pay off mortgage early by making extra payments to decrease debt
                                          • Implementation Intention: Pair new habit with a specific time and location
                                          • Habit Stacking: Take an existing habit and pair it with the habit you’re trying to form
                                          • Self-Control: Create an environment where you spend less time being tempted
                                          • Temptation Bundling: Pair action that you want to do with a habit you need to do
                                          • 2-Minute Rule: When starting a new habit, it takes two minutes or less to form
                                          • Increasing Friction: Make it difficult to do bad habits (it’s easy to use credit cards)
                                          • Cardinal Rule: What’s rewarded is repeated, what’s punished is avoided
                                          • Environment: Be aware of people and things around you that form your habits
                                          • Links:

                                            Atomic Habits by James Clear

                                            Cold Turkey

                                            You Need a Budget (YNAB)

                                            Dave Ramsey

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                                          • The Slippery Slope of Financing Your Lifestyle

                                            Is there good debt and bad debt? What’s the difference? Is it good or bad to have debt?  It can be a slippery slope, so understand the psychology of debt before making big decisions to finance your lifestyle.

                                            In this episode of the Finance for Physicians Podcast, Daniel Wrenne talks about debt. Buying things you can’t afford with money you don’t have just to impress people that you don’t know or like can be a big problem.

                                            Topics Discussed:
                                            • Reasons why people finance things:
                                              • Leverage low interest rates
                                              • Increase efficiency and invest in other things
                                              • Buy something sooner for immediate gratification
                                              • Cultural challenge to do what everybody else does
                                              • More or Less: In reality, does having debt or paying it off make you happy?
                                              • Psychology of Debt: Save up before being susceptible to spending more
                                              • Key Takeaways:
                                                • Pay attention to debt-to-income ratio
                                                • Bring debt number/amount down
                                                • Save wisely to avoid being house poor or filing bankruptcy
                                                • Links:

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                                                About Finance for Physicians

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                                                The goal at Finance for Physicians is to help you use money as a tool to live a great life, on your own terms. Daniel Wrenne, podcast host and CEO of Wrenne Financial Planning, has spent the last…

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